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Minutemen find few migrants (Police in Mexico discouraging illegal crossings)
Arizona Daily Star ^
Posted on 04/05/2005 8:34:29 AM PDT by Kokojmudd
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To: ClintonBeGone
"Actually, it's going to be whatever story works best for the front men of this group. Like I said before, Maxine Waters has the CIA/crack story going on, your side will need to create a reason too."
That is a red herring. Seems to me you like to label those who disagree with you as anti-immigrant and compare them to Maxine Waters. You disqualify all figures on border crossings and lump them into 2 groups....Border Control figures and "those who hate immigrants" because they are "biased." Yet, you refuse to provide any facts to back up your views, but are content to demonize others as biased and anti-immigrant.
I am hoping you are simply engaging in a ruse to be provocative since you claim to be a member of the USMC. If it is not a ruse and you are in fact a Marine please consider retirement or at least an assignment to a non-combat area. Safety first. Thank you.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:01:18 AM PDT
by
Kokojmudd
(Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
To: ClintonBeGone; Dead Corpse
To: Dead Corpse
Sure. Someone on your side is going to have to make up some theory to keep the masses pumped up and contributing money to ALIPAC. It's not unlike the Maxine Water's rumor that the CIA spread crack through african-american neighborhoods.
It makes good reading, but does anyone take it seriously?
# 19 by ClintonBeGone *********************************************
Of course I take the "rumor" that the CIA spread drugs throughout the United States seriously.
Drugs have financed several of our government's "secret" programs.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:08:14 AM PDT
by
exodus
To: exodus
Are you telling me that legal migrants are willing to wait in line for years in order to get a chance to work in those "horrible" conditions?
I don't think it takes years to get a job picking grapes or cherries. They are probably just legal workers. If they're from another country, they're probably working under a H-2A visa.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:09:16 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: exodus
"Of course I take the "rumor" that the CIA spread drugs throughout the United States seriously."
LOL you're kidding me? So you're pro-drug and anti-immigrant? Interesting combination. Don't meet too many like you around.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:10:43 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: ClintonBeGone
Still busy flacking for your soft-on-illegals cohorts, I see.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:14:21 AM PDT
by
Czar
(StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
To: ClintonBeGone
No one on this thread is "anti-immigrant".
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:15:16 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
To: ClintonBeGone
Getting back at least what they pay, just like anyone else that has SS taxes withheld. What is the problem with that?
Nothing would be wrong IF they paid taxes. Many are paid under the table. They are not registered in our tax systems. They do not pay anything into the system. Therefore, they should get nothing back.
That's the problem.
You had problems with connect-the-dots when you were younger, didn't you?
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:16:45 AM PDT
by
Eagle of Liberty
("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
To: kidd; Kokojmudd
To: Kokojmudd
Well, we wanted the federal government to step up and act on this issue.
Next time, let's specify WHICH federal government.
# 47 by kidd *********************************************
I love that!
Great point, kidd.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:18:02 AM PDT
by
exodus
To: Kokojmudd
The state police are working with Grupo Beta, Mexico's migrant protection force, which is plucking migrants out of the desert and depositing them in nearby Agua Prieta, where they are encouraged to wait before trying to cross."where they are encouraged to wait before trying to cross" are the key words here. They are simply telling them to wait until the coast is clear. I'm sure there are more crossings in NM, TX and CA now.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:18:14 AM PDT
by
NRA2BFree
(Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
To: Kerretarded
And some of the ones who are, have registered under fake or stolen identities. Still others, aren't here to work at legal jobs at all and are only here for the crime opportunities.
Time to put a stop to it all.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:21:27 AM PDT
by
Dead Corpse
(Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
To: ClintonBeGone
The fact that the only ones that seem to be setting off the sensors are the MMK's themselves
First of all you clearly did not understand the article. Or you you are a moron.. one of the two. I will assume the first one. I guess you completely missed the part where the MMK calling in to the BP lead to the catching of 162 people so far, since Friday. Now add that number to the statement directly from the Mexican army that they were stopping people from crossing and it is clear than many more than that would have crossed. It does not take a PHD or a foil hat to do that math.
I've never believed there was an immigration 'problem'. I think immigration is good for the US, for it's people, and for the businesses that employ workers.
There is not a immigration problem. There is an ILLEAGAL border crossing problem. Drug dealers, terrorists, anyone can cross down there. Only morons would confuse that with some kind of anti-hispanic racism. I have no problem with people of ANY race. I have a huge problem with law breakers and a very huge problem with the federal government ignoring law breakers. In addition I have a massive problem with one country encouraging it citizens to infiltrate a neighboring country, hold jobs illegally and send the money back home. They spend a huge effort to get into and siphon money out of our economy rather than building up their own. If they want in on our economy the can apply to come here LEGALLY or they can try to become a state. Otherwise no one from any country has a right to sneak in.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:21:32 AM PDT
by
TalonDJ
To: TalonDJ
ClintonBG uses "MMK" in place of MMP (MinuteMan Project) in a shallow attempt to bait. more than likely trying to imply "klan" for the "K". really subtle and impressive eh?
LOL
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:29:36 AM PDT
by
sdpatriot
(remember waco and ruby ridge)
To: TalonDJ
I guess you completely missed the part where the MMK calling in to the BP lead to the catching of 162 people so far, since Friday.
Actually, I was waiting to hear the claim that they caught 162 more than they did in this same period last year, or 162 more during this period than they average during such period. Do you have that data?
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:35:57 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: ClintonBeGone
exodus - "Of course I take the "rumor" that the CIA spread drugs throughout the United States seriously."
ClintonBeGone - LOL you're kidding me? So you're pro-drug and anti-immigrant? Interesting combination. Don't meet too many like you around. *********************************************
You're a strange "conservative."
Remember Iran-Contra? Remember Mena, Arkansas? Remember Waco? Remember Elian? Remember the innocent men framed for murder in Boston in order to "protect" government informants? Remember the syphilis experiments on uninformed black men in the '60s?
Remember all the innocent babies killed by abortion, and now even "useless" people like Terri Shiavo murdered, all "legally," by our government.
Why do you trust an institution that even our Founders warned us needed to be watched with a critical eye?
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:37:41 AM PDT
by
exodus
To: TalonDJ
I have no problem with people of ANY race. I have a huge problem with law breakers and a very huge problem with the federal government ignoring law breakers.
Well it sounds like you agree President Bush - reform the system to take away the cloud or question of illegality and you've solved this supposed problem.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:37:44 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: borntobeagle
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:38:45 AM PDT
by
manic4organic
(We won. Get over it.)
To: Kerretarded
Nothing would be wrong IF they paid taxes. Many are paid under the table. They are not registered in our tax systems. They do not pay anything into the system. Therefore, they should get nothing back.
So you're saying that anyone can get social security worker benefits without paying into the system? That's news to me. In fact, they allow you to send for a statement every year that tells you how much you've earned and how much your social security check will be based on how much you've contributed by way of your salary.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:39:23 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: Dead Corpse
No one on this thread is "anti-immigrant".
And we know this how?
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:39:50 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: exodus
Elian Gonzalaz was part of a CIA program?
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT
by
ClintonBeGone
(In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
To: manic4organic
I agree, go minutemen!
While the crossings have like just moved to areas they aren't patrolling, it's still a rousing success. They have accomplished in a few days what the border patrol in that area couldn't do in over a decade.
Here's to hoping the program expands to cover our entire border.
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posted on
04/05/2005 11:47:10 AM PDT
by
Advil
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