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I do not agree with Cheney. We the people of the USA must stand tall if we want human rights. We must fight against evils denying our citizens even the most basic of human rights, the right to live. We are trying to tell other nations that they should improve on human rights when our nation, with it's corrupt judges, has now sunk to the lowest of the low.
1 posted on 04/04/2005 8:06:30 AM PDT by tessalu
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well, ought not judges be accountable?


2 posted on 04/04/2005 8:07:33 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. http://209.245.58.70/frosty65/ Let it load and have the sound on.)
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They are in coverup mode. I'm with Rep. Delay. He is putting his career on the line.


3 posted on 04/04/2005 8:12:42 AM PDT by FR_addict
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It's not their decisions in a case that matter, it's their decision not to follow the law as is their duty that matters.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 8:12:46 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments.

Yes, Mr. Vice President. However, the reason why they were given lifetime appointments was so that they DIDN'T inject themselves into the polictics of the thing.

That has clearly gone by the wayside.

The people's voice --laws dutifully and rightfully enacted by the people's representatives-- were completely ignored.

The judiciary has taken over the direction of this country. They are dictating what we can and can't say. They are dictating what we can and can't do. They are dictating exactly what we are and aren't to approve of (as a society).

They have become dictators within our own borders.

Judges are no longer men (or women) of sound reasoning and intepretation of the law. They are no longer men (or women) of principle.

Now, judges are men and women of sentiment. And, sentiment, Mr. Vice President doesn't last.

And, if the Executive and Legislative let this go on too much longer, neither will our Republic.

5 posted on 04/04/2005 8:13:39 AM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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Why was only one man, Judge Greer, the determinant of the facts in Terri's case?

In most other cases, it is a jury that determines the facts. Certainly the facts in all capital cases are determined by a jury, although the defendant could select trial by a judge if he were so inclined.

Qualified individuals can make wise judgments. An individual can also make horrific judgments. Our society has determined that groups of individuals are more likely to be wise. That is why we have city councils, company boards of directors, and jury trials. Groups of people tend to be "less imperfect" than single individuals.

Setting aside personalities, as distasteful as they appear to be, having only one person determine the facts seems to be the central failing of the judicial system in Terri's case. For the future, that failing could be solved by legislative action.


6 posted on 04/04/2005 8:14:44 AM PDT by LOC1
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Judge Greer DOES NOT HAVE A LIFETIME APPOINTMENT. He is elected. He is accountable to his electorate. Of course, he is not accountable to me; I am not in Florida.

Let the people in Florida take care of this -- if they dare. The country is watching Florida.

I pray that they use the power of the people to correct this injustice and put a STOP to this movement to devalue life and to legalize euthanasia. If we hope to stop the murder of unborn children, we must ensure that we are not killing off our elderly because of inconvenience.


7 posted on 04/04/2005 8:17:41 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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That's what social liberals do-- bow to the judiciary.

...can't say he's a fiscal conservative either, given his support of GWB's spending largess.

...exactly what kind of conservative is he, again?


8 posted on 04/04/2005 8:18:08 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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Dick Cheney is an intelligent, capable, no-nonsense administrator.

But he is no moral philosopher, and this statement makes that painfully obvious. Skill does not equal wisdom.

10 posted on 04/04/2005 8:20:53 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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So sorry, VP Cheney, I cannot agree with you on this. Even the latest decision by Judge Greer (forgetting the 89 DCF investigations into abuse) smacks of lawlessness, brutal judicial dictatorship.


14 posted on 04/04/2005 8:22:23 AM PDT by YepYep
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Standard Republican response, NOT A NUT ON THEM!


17 posted on 04/04/2005 8:24:00 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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"I don't think that's appropriate," he said. "I may disagree with decisions made by judges in any one particular case. But I don't think there would be much support for the proposition that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments."

I've always liked Cheney, and rational, logical statements like this just serve to make me like him more.

It really is too bad that he won't run in 2008. He'd make a great President.

18 posted on 04/04/2005 8:27:25 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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disappointed...not surprised.


22 posted on 04/04/2005 8:31:22 AM PDT by housewife101
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To: Nightshift; nicmarlo; floriduh voter; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; amdgmary; pc93

ping


24 posted on 04/04/2005 8:34:06 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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I actually cannot imagine that the Washington (*spit!*) Post accurately described this exchange with VP Cheney.

I want to see a freakin transcript.


33 posted on 04/04/2005 8:54:24 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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I don't disagree with Cheney, but for a different reason. Perhaps it's sophistry, but to discipline Greer for his decisions in the specific case, barring "clear and compelling" evidence of corruption.

However, Greer's obstinant definace over the congressional subpoenas is actionable, as is the defiance of Whittemore and the appelate system to enforce the clear intent of the law passed by congress and signed by President Bush.

Is that clear as mud?


38 posted on 04/04/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by MortMan (CON is the opposite of PRO. Is Congress therefore the opposite of progress?)
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OK, Dick, you win.
Retire and go fishing.

I guess there is nobody at all in the republican party worth a damn.

Let's just bring on the Evil and we all meet up later at the camps.


51 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:50 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (It's time to water the tree!)
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This is hard to process.

That's like saying that no matter how wrong a judge rules - no matter how out of control - he is, in essence, "God" and cannot be questioned?

I am extremely upset and concerned that Cheney would say this.

We need to continue swamping DeLay and the other senators - IMORTANT other senators know we are behind them investigating this...

We let this get swept under the rug at our peril ... our freedoms, even our right to life, are being undermined, drip by slow drip.

52 posted on 04/04/2005 9:56:13 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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The Vice President has it WRONG...it is NOT revenge, it is seeking the truth and punishing those who DID wrong. If it was wrong to go after wrongdoers, our jails would be empty.

I don't think the administration has a CLUE what this has been about or how urgent it is.


54 posted on 04/04/2005 10:04:31 AM PDT by freepertoo
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Well Dick that's too damn bad because the black robes have broken the tripartite stool and are running amok.
62 posted on 04/04/2005 10:16:00 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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The judges in the Schiavo case should be stripped of their positions and publicly humiliated.


68 posted on 04/04/2005 10:21:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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