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Cheney Opposes Retribution Against Schiavo Judges
Washington Post ^ | April 4, 2005 | Mike Allen & Brian Faler

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by tessalu

Vice President Cheney says he opposes revenge against judges for their refusal to prolong the life of the late Terri Schiavo, although he did not criticize House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) for declaring that they will "answer for their behavior."

Cheney was asked about the issue on Friday by the editorial board of the New York Post. He said twice that he had not seen DeLay's remarks, but the vice president said he would "have problems" with the idea of retribution against the courts. "I don't think that's appropriate," he said. "I may disagree with decisions made by judges in any one particular case. But I don't think there would be much support for the proposition that because a judge hands down a decision we don't like, that somehow we ought to go out -- there's a reason why judges get lifetime appointments."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: awiseman; cheney; cheneychick; judges; terrischiavo
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To: oldbrowser

You quoted someone else... was this reply meant for me? I'm in full agreement with you.


261 posted on 04/04/2005 6:12:52 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: antiRepublicrat
First, prejudicial wording, attempting to influence the answer by the wording of the question, establishing a disputed event in the question. So I won't answer that.

Well, then there now - let me rephrase the posters question for you :

"Do you think refusing someone food and water, by any means, including by mouth, constitutes murder?"

(Greer did issue an order that NO ONE was to feed her by mouth - or even give her ice chips or a wet wash cloth on her mouth to relieve the drying and cracking of her lips...

262 posted on 04/04/2005 6:14:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ClancyJ

AMEN


263 posted on 04/04/2005 6:15:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: AndrewC
I thought Cheney was fairly smart. What part of "it is my judgment that, despite sincere and altruistic motivation, the legislative and executive branches of our government have acted in a manner demonstrably at odds with our Founding Fathers’ blueprint for the governance of a free people — our Constitution." does he agree with?

That quote isn't from any decision. It's from a concurring opinion and is irrelevant to the outcome of the case.

264 posted on 04/04/2005 6:19:51 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: doc30
Doc you make some excellent points. Obviously Florida was a swing state in the last couple of elections and I can see this possibly having a devastating effect on future elections. So many conservatives throwing words around like Nazi, culture of death, and corrupt state government, it wouldn't be hard to imagine Florida voting democratic in the next big election.

Playing a tiny fiddle for you. post #258

It is unfortunate that some people can only respond with trite, sarcastic comments.

I think Cheney did the right thing.

265 posted on 04/04/2005 6:22:34 PM PDT by GullyFolye (former public school teacher)
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To: tessalu
Cheney..hello? The man (Greer) did not allow certain facts? Does that wave any flags? Ring any bells?

Call it what you will but the whole matter deserves at least a look don't ya think?

266 posted on 04/04/2005 6:25:48 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Terri Schiavo, "Where there's life, there's hope.")
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To: nicmarlo
Make that fiddle very very little.

Oh, I did ;o)

I'm a professional miniaturist - even a member of the "Hillard Society of Miniaturists" in England . So I made a really tiny fiddle - can't be heard by those whiners who play it ;o)

267 posted on 04/04/2005 6:27:24 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: mattdono
My Version of what you said here
268 posted on 04/04/2005 6:28:28 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 32 more races to go...)
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To: tessalu

It'll probably take 20 years to kill Scott Peterson but it only took 15 years to kill Terrri.


269 posted on 04/04/2005 6:33:48 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: maine-iac7

FOFLOL!


270 posted on 04/04/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: maine-iac7

And who will play one for you when the backlash hits the polls and the likes of Hillary gets in? It is one thing to be upset withthe Schaivo case, but if you want to demonzie Florida, it will go blue in the next election. Like I said earlier, comments like "Nazis" and "death culture" are not making friends of many people down here. Greer had to decide based on what was presented at the initial trial. If the Schindlers had better legal and expert representation, it could have gone the other way. From what I understand here, if there is nothing in writing, the spouse makes the decisions. There was no judicial activism, no new law being created, but just a very unpopular decision. To say otherwise would imply that the entire legal system, federal and state, is not working properly. With the sheer volume of judges involved, I find that hard to believe. Cheney is right. You can't have a nation of laws if you want to go to war with those laws. Better laws are needed. The FL legislature was very sloppy with its late interventions.


271 posted on 04/04/2005 6:46:13 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: GullyFolye

Thank you for your comments. This is a very passionate topic for many people here. Legal decisions based on passion are not the wisest and the ad hominim attacks on FL are growing tiresome. As a FL resident, I have lots of complaints, but this one isn't in my top 10 list.


272 posted on 04/04/2005 6:48:44 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30; maine-iac7
Greer had to decide based on what was presented at the initial trial. If the Schindlers had better legal and expert representation, it could have gone the other way.

perhaps you are unfamiliar with all the laws Greer broke. You must have skipped over that part. When you're done with post #41, go to post #55.

I'm positive if Greer followed the law, the outcome would be that Terri wouldn't have been murdered by his order.

273 posted on 04/04/2005 6:49:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Greer is legally blind

didn't we hear him say once that he'd never want to live like that? ;O)

274 posted on 04/04/2005 6:56:02 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

Maybe his wife did.


275 posted on 04/04/2005 7:00:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: doc30
Like I said earlier, comments like "Nazis" and "death culture" are not making friends of many people down here. Greer had to decide based on what was presented at the initial trial. If the Schindlers had better legal and expert representation, it could have gone the other way. From what I understand here, if there is nothing in writing, the spouse makes the decisions. There was no judicial activism, no new law being created, but just a very unpopular decision. To say otherwise would imply......

Ummm - like you're implying, as far as anyone reading your post to me, that I've made remarks like "nazi" and "death Culture"?

That was another poster who posed the question. You replied to that poster: us locals, who've been following the case for 10 years, supported Greer. People here think Michal Schaivo is a lout, but believe the law is on his side. The intervention of Jeb, the FL legislature and the federal government is DEEPLY resented. Also, the talk of FL and Pinellas Co as being some type of Nazi machine has deepened that resentment. "

I remarked to that post with these few words: Playing a tiny fiddle for you.

Lighten up, doc. You're making a case for people to wonder even more about your neck of the woods - and by the way, don't include all of Florida with your Pinellas county. (Would that be defamation?)

276 posted on 04/04/2005 7:09:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: nicmarlo
Maybe his wife did.

he he - and were I the judge on the bench, I'd believe her, yessiree

277 posted on 04/04/2005 7:11:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: nicmarlo
I'm positive if Greer followed the law, the outcome would be that Terri wouldn't have been murdered by his order.

"I don't want anyone trying to feed that girl.
The law of this case is that she is going to die."

278 posted on 04/04/2005 7:25:27 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: maine-iac7

Sorry for the mix up with the replies. For any one else following the conversation between maine-iac7 and myself, the ad hominims I quoted were not from maine-iac7. As per the comment of us locals, I am referring to the Tampa Bay area and Pinelas county in particular. Most of my friends are conservative Republicans and do not like the legislature and the federal government getting involved. It has made several republican supporters question their votes.


279 posted on 04/04/2005 7:45:48 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: tutstar; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; atruelady; Brad's Gramma; Cayenne; countrydummy; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


280 posted on 04/04/2005 7:48:30 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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