Posted on 04/03/2005 6:42:45 PM PDT by Gondring
thorw=thrown
Such a people do not comprise a civilization, but a house of horror with only a slick veneer of civilization
No one really knows what she wanted. Greer chose for her. What if he were wrong?
Choosing life could always be changed if there was an error.
Choosing death could never be changed if there is an error.
Well said. Very well said.
Thou shall not murder now depends on the meaning of the word "is."
If someone is defenseless, it's a "choice" to murder them.
How things have changed from the founders original intent of "The right to life."
When the 10 natural laws are removed from the publics consciousness, their opposites move in to fill the void - the abominations of political correctness become law.
That is the post I have read on the topic in a very long time.
That is the crux of it all, isn't it.
But the facts tell us there was no such statement and her actions told us there was no such wish. But even if I am wrong about that... Why couldn't we have asked her? Why was she silenced for so many years so we could not find out. She could communicate- why was someone not allowed to ask her what she wanted.
Because the judge didn't want to know what she wanted. And that is where we start with the problems in this case. IT is all documented.
Have you no backbone? Do you simply buy in to the MSM's portrayal of the forces at odds? I am not a "bibler" nor are the friends of mine who both voted for Bush and detested what happened to Terri Schiavo. We are not alienated, we are not against the right to make end of life decisions in either direction.
We are for the right to self determination and so it seemed was Florida law until Greer got a hold of it and found the right to die the compelling presumption.
Isn't it the governments job to defend the lives of the American people? Even mass murders get a personal lawyer and their day before the Supreme Court.
I'll start with: Randall Terry and his friends.
Your post 237, I saved it. Wonderfully said.
That is probably the most horrifying aspect of the entire case to me.
That a judge (of any kind) could sentence an innocent human being to no food and water in any way until they died. Evil.
Agreed. There's no justification whatsoever for the State to interfere in a marriage like that, no excuse for delaying and denying the right of a woman to escape her situation, no reason behind such support for people who wanted to act violently against our legal system.
It's interesting... your name has always reminded me of a friend of mine who chose--soon before your "Torie" join date (I've been around here for a while, under a previous nickname)--to die rather than live a life she didn't want. Doctors couldn't treat her and wouldn't help her to escape, so she acquired cyanide herself and died a horrible death, far from painless.
Do I miss Torry? Yes, every day. Would I wish her to be back here, against her desire? On an emotional level, yes...but would I truly want it? No...I care too much for her. I respect her too much, and just wished she could have had a more dignified way to go. That is true respect for life.
No they just strap them to a bed for fifteen years and auger for fifteen more.
There may be some disagreement, but the really rabid religious fundamentalists can be just as dangerous to liberty as any of the really rabid leftists in the democrat party.
Examples:
1. Randall Terry, who has a long criminal record in connection with his 'Operation Rescue'. Terry and Operation Rescue have a long history of violence against those with whom they disagree.
2. Louis Sheldon, of the Traditional Values Coalition. Sheldon and the TVC have a history of lobbying against scientific research which does not support his agenda. Furthermore, Sheldon and the TVC have been implicated in some very questionable lobbying tactics. Sheldon was working for the major drug companies, to oppose reimportation of drugs from Canada. However, he told supporters his opposition was to RU-486. Sheldon was lying to his supporters.
3. Fred Phelps, of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church. Phelps was disbarred as a lawyer. The irony is Phelps was considered too unethical to be a lawyer, but he was allowed to be a minister. Furthermore, Phelps and his church have been guilty of harassing the people of Topeka, in an attempt to make them to conform to his agenda. Phelps also has a reputation for domestic violence, assaulting his wife and beating his children.
4. Their are others who have equally sordid reputations.
But do you want a judge to have the power to say that you CANNOT eat?
But you're falling for the Big Lie. It was the anti-Greer crowd who were looking to deny Mrs. Schiavo her rights. Recall that the Schindlers and DeLay and others were pointing out that they'd want to keep Mrs. Schiavo's body going even if it were in writing that she didn't want it!
This is a clear case of a lack of respect for Mrs. Schiavo, and for her husband and their marriage. The Left has successfully instigated religious fanatics to shoot themselves in the foot, strengthening Roe, and making them look like hypocrites. :-(
Conservatives look to the Constitution- It is all right there for you -go look. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Representation in court of law.
You advocate Judges deciding about the merits of laws- at the bench and at their whim. There were laws to protect a person in Terri's condition. They were thrown out of court so someone could kill her. That is NOT Conservatism.
Deciding that an American citizen is not person enough to receive their Constitutional rights is not Conservatism.
If people are having their feeding tubes pulled across this country without their consent than I will think of the Schiavo case as Brown v. The Board of Education or Rosa Parks or any other civil rights injustice that came to be associated with one name.
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