Theresa Marie Schindler... May Daily Thread 2005 CALL TO ACTION: Our Fight for Justice Continues

Various Sources ^ | April 3, 2005 | floriduh voter

[floriduh voter]

Freeper friends, Terri's Memorial Service is this coming Tuesday night in Gulfport, Florida. Please check and see if www.baynews9.com will carry it on the internet.

I'm still sad and in disbelief that the rescue fell apart. It was on it's way. We were waiting there for ambulances but instead two Sheriff's cruisers arrived.

There's much work to do. There are many work groups here carrying on for Terri.

The April Daily Thread as before will be a meeting place, a news digest and even in the midst of sorrow, a place to make friends.

I want to thank everyone who did everything humanly possible for Terri and her family. Terri's safe now from a room with the blinds closed, strange people and armed guards. She'd still be here if it wasn't for judicial despots who it appears have never read the Declaration of Independence or the U.S. or Florida Constitution.

Freepers, Republicans and Democrats alike voted against Terri or didn't do enough to save her from Judge Greer.

I'd like to thank Ralph Nader, David Boies, Joe Lieberman and Wesley Smith, Phd, author of Forced Exit.

I have disdain for the Naughty Nine Republicans in the Florida Senate who vote "No" which barred Terri from legislative relief. The GOP House Members who voted "No" on Terri, shame on them too.

WHAT EXACTLY IS THE AGENDA AND WHO IS IN CHARGE? I'm afraid that Judge George Greer is in charge - of everything.

PLEASE HELP FLORIDA... CALL YOUR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN/WOMEN.

HELP US. We feel stranded by tyranny today, but Florida is ripe for change. We will demand it together as Americans.

Thanks, FV

[floriduh voter]

Schiavo relative set to speak at Capitol in Louisiana

The brother of Terri Schiavo will be at the State Capitol this week to testify on proposed changes to Louisiana's "living will" law, a state senator said.

Sen. James David Cain, R-Dry Creek, is proposing a law to require that patients can't be denied food and water unless they previously requested "to be starved to death," Cain said.

The late Terri Schiavo was at the center of a recent nationally watched legal fight over whether to turn off the Florida woman's feeding tube after she spent years in a coma.

Her brother, Bobby Schindler, will testify on Cain's bill Tuesday in the Senate Judiciary "A" Committee meeting set for 9 a.m. in the Senate's big briefing room, Cain said.

The Schindler family opposed turning off the feeding tube, but Terri Schiavo's husband won a legal battle to do so.

"We have to determine that people actually want to be starved to death before we pull the plug," Cain said in a statement explaining the reason for his bill.

The Louisiana Senate last week bestowed another honor on the late Sen. John Hainkel Jr., a veteran legislator who died just before the legislative session's start.

Senators voted to rename the Senate Briefing Room, its newest and one of its larger committee rooms, in Hainkel's honor.

A move is also afoot to rename the New Orleans Home and Rehabilitation Center after Hainkel, a former president of the Senate and speaker of the House of Representatives.

The state-operated nursing home is scheduled for closure as a part of Gov. Kathleen Blanco's budget cuts, but area residents are promising a fight to keep it open.

FV SAYS: This article emailed to me from who knows what publication has an error. Terri was not in a coma.

Further, if good people knew the truth about what was involved in starving and dehydration, they would NEVER choose to do this to their own body or to their loved ones.

[FairOpinion]

An excellent editorial:

Protecting the lives of others is fundamental to civilization (Terri Schiavo)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1399343/posts

The political left has claimed to champion the rights of the disabled and opposes capital punishment for criminals. However, these same liberals pushed for the expeditious death of Terri Schiavo and few liberals rose up to oppose her execution. This should have a very chilling effect on the disabled and all of us.

Killing Terri added power to liberal tyranny. The socialist elite, including judges, will increasingly determine who will be born, live, and die. If they succeed, we will enter a very frightening and dreary new world.

[amdgmary]

New from The Empire Journal

License of Schiavo Doctor Suspended

http://www.theempirejournal.com/5090502_license_of_schiavo_docto.htm

[amdgmary]

Schiavo findings won't be rushed

"Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Dr. Jon Thogmartin sits Thursday at the Largo District 6 Medical Examiner's Office, 10900 Ulmerton Road."

Excerpts from today's St. Petersburg Times article

"Thogmartin, 41, knows Schiavo's autopsy will probably be the most publicized of his career. He won't talk about it until he is done and estimates it will be two or three more weeks."

"He has reversed two findings of his predecessor, Joan Wood, resulting in two fathers who were accused of shaking their babies to death being cleared of murder charges."

"State Attorney Bernie McCabe and Public Defender Bob Dillinger used the same words to describe Thogmartin: "professional" and "independent."

"E-mails and letters have streamed in accusing Thogmartin of bias."

"A Star Trek fan, when the tough questions come up, Thogmartin often jokes with his staff, 'What would Capt. Kirk do?'"

Click here for article

[amdgmary]

New at The Empire Journal

AWARDS TO SCHIAVO JUDGE ADD INSULT TO INJURY

http://www.theempirejournal.com/5090501_awards_to_schiavo_judge.htm

[Halls]

The fact he has overturned findings of his predessor has me worried.

[amdgmary]

The fact that the medical examiner gave an interview to the St. Pete Times and seems to bask in his new-found celebrity is troubling. He's probably part of the good ol' boy system in Pinellas County.

[amdgmary]

SCHINDLER FAMILY RESOLVE: NEVER AGAIN!

One Holocaust was one too many.

So Jews rightly resolved: "Never again!"

One judicial murder was one too many.

So the Schindler family has resolved, for the sake of America's very soul and in Terri Schindler Schiavo's memory: "Never again!"

On Friday, May 6, 2005, Terri's loving parents and siblings appeared together on "Hannity & Colmes" to warn of the danger of unchecked judicial tyranny and to tell what Terri's premature death by starvation and malnutrition was really like.

And Terri's brother appeared briefly by telephone on EWTN's "The World Over With Raymond Arroyo" with the same vital message.

And received an invitation from Mr. Arroyo to the Schindler family to appear on that program in the near future to talk at length about the travesty of justice that was the Schiavo case.

Death by starvation and dehydration was not what Terri wanted, as the horrid husband, Michael Schiavo, and the legally and morally blind Judge, George Greer, selfishly and stubbornly insisted.

It was not the peaceful event the Devil's advocate, George Felos, described.

And Terri did not look as beautiful as she ever had been, as Felos diabolically declared.

Tragically, most of the media obfuscated the facts and tolerated the insistence of Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo that the truth about Terri's condition be kept from the public.

In the name of privacy, of course.

Adolf Hitler did not show the German people what was happening in his concentration camps either.

The Schindler family is firmly resolved that the Schiavo case remain unique.

No more sacrificial lambs.

No one else should be sentenced to death without an opportunity for a jury trial and executive clemency.

A mass murderer has those opportunities.

A disabled person deserves no less.

To be sure, Terri had process.

Thanks to her parents and siblings and those who learned what was going on and supported them.

But, Terri did not have DUE process.

A person cannot be convicted of treason without proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

But, Terri was sentenced to a cruel and unusual death based on "clear and convincing evidence" that was neither clear nor convincing.

Michael Schiavo suddenly claimed after collecting more than $1,000,000 because Terri had mysteriously become disabled and taking up with another woman whom he announced he intended to marry that Terri mentioned to him, his brother and his sister-in-law (but none of her blood relatives or friends unrelated to Michael Schiavo) that she did not want to be kept alive artificially.

Even is Terri really had said so, the receipt of food and water through a feeding tube was not then considered as being kept alive artificially.

And Pope John Paul the Great himself confirmed that just as it is gravely sinful to commit suicide, it is gravely sinful to withhold food and water when it can be provided via a feeding tube.

There was NO evidence that Terri wanted to be starved and dehydrated to death.

In fact, the only independent testimony was by a friend of Terri who testified that Terri said, "Where there's life, there's hope."

That should have been dispositive.

But Judge Greer rejected it, claiming that since Karen Anne Quinlan died in the mid 1970s, the witness was confused.

Judge Greer was confused, to give him the benefit of the doubt.

The independent witness was not only plausible, but convincing.

And Karen Anne Quinlan's death many years later is a matter of public record!

But neither Judge Greer nor an appellate court would acknowledge that Judge Greer had wrongfully condemned Terri to a horrible death.

The judiciary alone starved and dehydrated Terri to death.

No prosecutor decided to prosecute Terri.

No grand jury indicted Terri.

No jury of Terri's peers decided Terri should be starved and dehydrated to death.

The Florida legislature and Governor acted to save Terri from judicial abuse, by passing and signing a law.

But the judiciary wrongly ruled the law an unconstitutional infringement on judicial power.

And the United States Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal.

Terri's God-given and unalienable right to life was not important enough to the Supremes.

Florida's Governor could not spare Terri's life, because she was not a convicted criminal.

Congressional subpoenas to protect Terri in connection with a Congressional investigation were disrespected by the judiciary.

The United States Congress and the President passed and signed on an emergency basis a special law to have a Florida federal court conduct a de novo review.

But the Florida federal judge who drew the case opted to let Terri die instead of to keep her alive while he conducted that de novo review.

And the federal appellate judiciary shamefully permitted that.

Because a true de novo review unduly risked humiliating the United States Supreme Court as well as the Florida judiciary?

Terri Schiavo was one disabled woman.

An infinitesimally small sacrifice to make to preserve the illusion that at least in the end the judiciary does the right thing in a country in which the judiciary created a constitutional "right' that has led to some 45,000,000 abortions.

The Schiavo case highlights the judiciary's gravest problem: the limited scope of judicial review.

Scores of judges did not "hear" the case.

Only ONE judge (and a legally blind one) "heard" the case.

His fundamentally flawed factual determinations were upheld on appeal.

NOT because the appellate judges necessarily would have made them if they had heard the case.

But because those appellate judges (with a few insufficient exceptions) unduly deferred to Judge Greer as fact finder.

Theoretically because he was in a better position to judge the credibility of witnesses than an appellate judge (who reads transcripts instead of sees and hears testimony).

When the trial judge is legally blind, that legally blind trial judge should not be accorded deference blindly!

The appellate judges should have reviewed the trial record de novo.

Even though that would have taken more time.

Congress directed de novo review for very good cause.

But the Schiavo federal case went to a judge who preferred not to do it.

Terri received punishment that was ex post facto as well as cruel and unusual.

The Florida statute passed after Terri's mysterious collapse sets forth two basic requirements before a person can be starved and dehydrated to death "lawfully":

1. That person must be in a persistent vegetative state; and

2. That person must have expressed a desire to die instead of to be kept alive by "artificial" means under the circumstances.

AFTER Terri collapsed, receiving food and water through a feeding tube was ADDED to the list of artificial means of keeping a person alive.

Amazingly, a judge ruled that Terri could lawfully be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment because she was NOT a lawfully convicted criminal!

Saith that judge: The Fourteenth Amendment prohibition on a state depriving any person of life without due process of law really means any lawfully convicted criminal!

Is the law really that a person not even accused of a crime has LESS of a claim not to be treated cruelly and unusually than a lawfully convicted criminal?

OF COURSE NOT!

Remember the Ninth Amendment?

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Surely the People retained the right to be treated as well as lawfully convicted criminals!

The United States Supreme Court ruled that barring former Confederates from practicing law in the federal courts after the Civil War was unconstitutional ex post facto punishment.

Even though the prohibition was not identified as punishment.

In Griswold v. State of Connecticut, the United States Supreme Court declared "that specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance."

When Planned Parenthood asked for a penumbra to stop criminal prosecution of the use of birth control, lo and behold, the United States Supreme Court discerned that penumbra.

When the Schindler family begged for judges to see the penumbra that was supposed to save Terri from being starved and dehydrated to death, the justices of the United States Supreme Court and 10 or the 12 federal appellate judges hearing their appeals were blind to it.

Like Judge Greer.

Now the Schindler family is pleading with all America to make sure that there be no more human sacrifices to judicial tyranny.

They deserve our full support.

http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_8147.shtml

[floriduh voter]

Remember that in George Greer's ILLEGAL campaign commercial Bob Dillinger had a Public Defender from his office standing in a courtroom setting shilling for Greer and so did Bernie McCabe. He had a prosecutor shililng for Greer in his tv ad. ALL OF IT WAS ILLEGAL ON SIDES. The Public Defender broke the law, the State Attorney Prosecutor broke the law and The Sheriff's dept. broke the law to loan their agencies to Greer for his campaign commercial.

The commercial was available at www.theempirejournal.com in its entirety.

CRONYISM RUNS DEEP IN PINELLAS COUNTY. You think I'm going to take McCabe or Dillinger's word for anything when they are SHILLS FOR GREER? LOL

[floriduh voter]

I want what he wants. This guy was at the May 5th protset at Greer's award from the West Pasco Cty Bar Assn. (leave off the "n" from Assn and that's what I think of those pompous ambulance chasers. FV

[amdgmary]

The Schindler Family Speaks Out in Their First Interview Since Terri Schiavo's Death

Monday, May 09, 2005

This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," May 6, 2005, that has been edited for clarity. Click here for the transcript

SEAN HANNITY: Just moments ago, I sat down with Terri Schiavo's family. It was their first television interview since Terri Schiavo's controversial death back in March.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Thank you all for being with us. It's good to see you again. I spent a lot of time with you guys down in Tampa. How are you doing? How are you holding up?

ROBERT SCHINDLER, TERRI SCHIAVO'S FATHER: We're fine. I mentioned earlier that we have been just inundated with, you know, compassion. And people have been just magnificent.

HANNITY: I think, as I was down there, I think everybody was worried more about you, Mary, than anyone else. And how are you doing?

MARY SCHINDLER, TERRI SCHIAVO'S MOTHER: I'm OK. I'm doing fine. I'm just trying to answer, you know, personal letters and letters that, you know, have been coming in. We got 10,000-12,000 sympathy cards that, you know, we got. And it's just been an outpouring of just wonderful, wonderful people.

HANNITY: Let me go back to you guys. And this is your sister. I want to go back to the day she died. Michael's attorney, Mr. Felos, said she never looked so beautiful, never looked so calm. It was a calm, peaceful and gentle death.

You were there up to almost the moment that your sister died. Is that how you'd describe it?

BOBBY SCHINDLER, TERRI SCHIAVO'S BROTHER: Absolutely not. It was the most barbaric — I use the word barbaric over and over. It was grotesque. I've seen my sister having to go through what she was going through. It was simply — I'm at a loss for words.

It was something that I can't believe we are allowing to happen to human beings, that we are actually starving and dehydrating to death. I mean, I can describe the way my sister looked, but it was just — it was horrible.

HANNITY: Yes.

SUZANNE VITADAMO, TERRI SCHIAVO'S SISTER: It was very difficult to watch, you know. It was grotesque. And you know, she was struggling to — it was just the whole — I can remember it like it was yesterday, just the visual of, you know, her body, the way she looked, you know, how her eyes were sunken in. She looked like a skeleton. She was struggling to breathe. I mean, that's not a very peaceful...

HANNITY: How heavy did she breathe, because you were there? This is your daughter.

R. SCHINDLER: It was so gut-wrenching, seeing her deteriorate. And people were misled at the fact that it was a peaceful way for her to die. Her face, the difference, the contrast from when that had started, the starvation. Her cheekbones, at the end, that's all we could see was her cheekbones. And her eyes were sunken within her head. And it looked like her teeth...

HANNITY: Why would somebody then describe it calm, peaceful, somebody never looked so beautiful in their life?

R. SCHINDLER: That was incredible.

VITADAMO: To justify what they were doing.

B. SCHINDLER: I think it — to tell you — they're mischaracterizing the way she died, just as they mischaracterizing Terri's condition prior to the starvation. They have to do this. This is a big lie. Because if they described what was really happening, I think, you know, the nation would be outraged with allowing this to take place.

HANNITY: If it's so peaceful, why no photos?

B. SCHINDLER: Exactly.

HANNITY: Why no video? When's the last time we saw an updated video of Terri?

B. SCHINDLER: And the same for her condition. They would not allow videos in to see Terri's condition, either. And it's for the same reason, because they continue to mischaracterize her condition. They needed to mischaracterize the way she died.

HANNITY: You guys had this last battle with Michael just moments before Terri died. You were there up until what, about 10 minutes before she passed away?

VITADAMO: Right.

HANNITY: And what happened?

VITADAMO: Well, you know, the nurse had come in and told us that we needed to leave for a few moments to do it, and they were going to do an assessment of Terri. So we were told that we could go back in the room in about 10 minutes.

And when we left the room, we said to the police, you know, we'll just wait out here. And he said, "No, I'm here to escort you off the property, per Mr. Schiavo."

We realized exactly what was happening. We knew that they were going to take us off the property and they were not going to allow us back in that room. So obviously, we were upset.

B. SCHINDLER: Well, you know, CBS News came out with the obituary of Terri two days before she died. And in this, if you had read it, you would have seen that this thing was all staged. That they wanted Michael to be there, holding Terri in her arms when she died. And that's exactly what they had to do.

So we were refused to be there with Terri when we knew she was close to her death. We were told we can not be in the room with her.

HANNITY: You had a battle with some police.

B. SCHINDLER: Well, after they told us we weren't allowed in the room, my sister...

HANNITY: You wanted to be with her.

B. SCHINDLER: We wanted to be with her.

VITADAMO: And we said, you know, we'll be in the room. Michael can be in the room.

B. SCHINDLER: We didn't care.

VITADAMO: We'll be in the room with him. We don't care. We just wanted to be with her.

R. SCHINDLER: So even after the fact, I went in there and there were two policemen in the room. And they would not allow us near Terri after she was dead.

HANNITY: Why?

R. SCHINDLER: And Mary was there with her. And they didn't give us a moment of privacy. And I pleaded with the policeman, "Please leave the room..."

HANNITY: Yes.

R. SCHINDLER: "... and give us, the family, a moment of privacy with Terri." And they wouldn't allow Terri's uncle in the room. And the policeman — he was going to arrest me, I believe, because I was insisting that we have some privacy with Terri.

HANNITY: That was — that was also the last time you saw her.

R. SCHINDLER: Yes. Throughout the entire two weeks...

HANNITY: What were they afraid, you were going to put an ice chip on her at that point, or...

R. SCHINDLER: Who only knows?

B. SCHINDLER: I think — I think they were told to be in the room. I think they were scared that we were going to take videos or pictures of Terri, which was absolutely — it's absolutely obscene that our family would even consider doing something like that. But I think that's why the police were ordered to be in the room.

R. SCHINDLER: Through that whole period, we were never permitted to be with Terri by herself. There was always policemen...

HANNITY: And you had told me that you couldn't even go in there. They were right over you and...

R. SCHINDLER: They were hovering over us.

HANNITY: You're the mom. This is your daughter. Couldn't give her an ice chip when she was dying, and then you couldn't give her, basically, a hug without having a police officer. How hard is that?,/b>

M. SCHINDLER: I had to whisper in her ear. I wanted to tell her anything that I wanted — just stuff that I wanted to tell her. I couldn't do it. You know, they were standing there. So I would bend down and whisper in her ear.

VITADAMO: Even when you did that, though, they would even crouch in closer, because they wanted to know what you were doing that close to her, you know?

The last few minutes we had with Terri we had Father Pavone (search) in the room with us. And he had a stop watch in his hand. And it was this watch that he wore. And the police came in and they wanted to know what he had in his hand. And he showed them. And they made him give it up. And he couldn't hold it. It was an ordeal.

HANNITY: Mr. Schindler, you wanted to add one more...

R. SCHINDLER: I just want to add one more point and to be more graphic about the peaceful way Terri died. I looked in her mouth — because at the very end, she was struggling to breathe — and the inside of her mouth looked like — all I could think of was like a piece of meat in a meat market. And it was like meat that had been out for awhile.

Inside of her mouth were, like, reddish-maroon because her mouth was all dried. Her lips and everything was cracking from the lack of hydration.

And that's things that has never been reported. And it's just — this can't happen again, Sean. It cannot happen again. And if anyone who would have witnessed that in the public, they would be so appalled by it they would never let it happen again.

HANNITY: If the public had seen the pictures of the images of this...

R. SCHINDLER: If they would have been permitted to see what she actually went through, it was just ghoulish.

HANNITY: Let me ask you. This didn't end this night, because then there's a battle over cremation. There's a battle over religious rites. There's a battle over her funeral. What happened?

B. SCHINDLER: Well, we still don't know where Terri's ashes were laid. They were court-ordered. They were supposed to tell us, and we still have not heard from Michael Schiavo where Terri's been laid. You know, it wasn't — our family expected this. Michael has disobeyed court orders throughout this whole ordeal and continues to do so today.

HANNITY: You know, with all the battles are gone, do you feel like you had an opportunity to say good-bye to your sister, to your daughter?

R. SCHINDLER: Not really. The circumstances, it was — you know, how do you say good-bye? I was encouraging her because I — all of us daily were holding out hope that, you know, something would change, with the legislature, with — that Governor Bush would step in and exercise his executive powers. ,p>And I kept encouraging Terri to, "Please, Terri, hang on."

B. SCHINDLER: We were fortunate enough, Suzie and I, and Father Pavone, as you said earlier, prior to Terri dying, we were fortunate enough to be in the room with her. And we were praying with her. And father was singing to her. And it was very — a peaceful moment we had with her, and that's what I try to think about.

ut you know something? It was so bad that, even while we were in the room with her praying and singing, I couldn't look at her. My face was buried. I was holding her, but my face was buried in her bed, because I could not take looking at my sister in that condition.

VITADAMO: And don't forget, that was 10 minutes before she died. So I've never seen — I mean, it was — I've never looked at death like that. I've never seen it. I've never been so close to death before.

HANNITY: All right. We've gone over some of this. And I want to go over it again here. So many unanswered questions in this case. When you read most reports that say Terri was bulimic, heart failure, heart attack and that's why she collapsed, that's not true?

B. SCHINDLER: The heart attack has been disproven. The bulimia — there is absolutely no medical facts supporting that Terri ever had an eating disorder. And I'm still seeing reports today that are reporting that Terri had an eating disorder. And it is the farthest thing from the truth.

HANNITY: She had lost weight five years earlier?

B. SCHINDLER: She had lost weight five — in fact, what is so upsetting is there is more evidence — there's no evidence that supports Terri had an eating disorder. But there's a tremendous amount of evidence supporting that something violent happened to Terri the night she collapsed. But yet, in the media, all you're hearing reported is that Terri had an eating disorder that caused her collapse.

HANNITY: The night that she was discovered, the paramedic decided to call police, quote, "because of Terri's age and because the situation seemed unusual." Was that ever investigated?

B. SCHINDLER: The night Terri collapsed was never investigated, no.

HANNITY: What do you think happened?

R. SCHINDLER: Well, I think there was violence involved. I think that Terri was a victim of abuse. And I think there should have been a full-scale investigation. Why it wasn't done, I'll never know. But it should have been done.

HANNITY: You found out, what, ten years after the fact that 53 weeks after she had collapsed, that she had a number of broken bones, that she had had, what, a broken femur, broken vertebrae, broken back, broken knees, broken ankles?

MARY SCHINDLER: Broken ribs.

HANNITY: Broken ribs? And it said, "compression factor presumably traumatic, the patient has a history of trauma." She never had a history of trauma?

R. SCHINDLER: No.

MARY SCHINDLER: No.

B. SCHINDLER: Not prior to her collapse. See, part of the problem we had, our family had, is because it happened so — because we found all this evidence so long after Terri collapsed, we weren't able to get a proper investigation.

HANNITY: But this is only one year after she collapsed?

B. SCHINDLER: But we, our family, did not come to find that bone scan until 2002.

HANNITY: But Michael was quoted — and he had already filed a lawsuit based on the collapse issue and the treatment. He said in The Tampa Bay Tribune that he thought, oh, that probably happened during rehab, or he suspected. Why didn't he sue over that? Do we know? Anyone ever ask?

R. SCHINDLER: No, he never communicated to us at the time about this bone scan.

MARY SCHINDLER: I was at rehab with her every day (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

SUZANNE VITADAMO: Early on.

MARY SCHINDLER: Early on, and nothing ever happened.

R. SCHINDLER: And how they discovered the problem was that when she was doing the rehab — and this is now within the first year after she had the collapse. And she was getting rehab then. And she was complaining. And she was in pain. And they didn't know what was causing the pain.

HANNITY: From the beginning, way before the 53 weeks, she was in that pain?

R. SCHINDLER: Yes.

VITADAMO: Yes. MARY SCHINDLER: Yes. And the doctor said that, you know, we should get a scan of her because something's going on here.

B. SCHINDLER: But we found this out — as I said, we found this out just a couple years ago, the bone scans.

HANNITY: Going back, again, this bone scan. Broken back, broken vertebrae, broken femur, broken knees, ankles and what else?

MARY SCHINDLER: Ribs.

HANNITY: Ribs. Do all of you think that Michael played a part in this?

B. SCHINDLER: Well, something caused her to collapse that night. And to this day, we still don't know what caused it.

Now, as I said, the last couple years — you know, one of the things our family has to live with the rest of our lives is that we weren't able to connect the dots back when Terri collapsed. But you know, we're connecting the dots now. And it sure appears as though something violent, as we said earlier, happened to Terri the night she collapsed.

HANNITY: But his only comment on this was in "The Tampa Tribune," that it could happen in rehab. And you're saying the pain that she was having was before this bone scan ever took place, or this time frame, is that what you're saying?

VITADAMO: That's what led up to the bone scan.

B. SCHINDLER: That's what's in her medical charts.

HANNITY: That's why they had the bone scan?

VITADAMO: That's why they had the bone scan.

B. SCHINDLER: Right.

R. SCHINDLER: But we were not advised of it by...

HANNITY: Because you didn't find out until ten years later?

R. SCHINDLER: No.

VITADAMO: Right.

MARY SCHINDLER: Right.

HANNITY: She never had an MRI, PET scan. No therapy since when?

B. SCHINDLER: '92. '91 or '92. So it was...

VITADAMO: No therapy.

MARY SCHINDLER: Nothing.

B. SCHINDLER: There was no medical documentation of any therapy (INAUDIBLE) or rehabilitation since '91 or '92.

HANNITY: A lot of people don't know there's only one finding of the fact, even though they keep saying there's 19 judges ruling on the case. Only one finding of the fact?

VITADAMO: That's right.

R. SCHINDLER: Yes.

HANNITY: I interviewed all of these nurses that filed affidavits that your daughter was not in a persistent vegetative state. You tell America here tonight she tried to communicate with you and did?

VITADAMO: Absolutely.

MARY SCHINDLER: All the time. How could 50 doctors that we had that said she's not PVS, and they take the word of two doctors that Michael had? That's pretty amazing.

R. SCHINDLER: That were paid...

B. SCHINDLER: Well, it was three doctors, but...

MARY SCHINDLER: Three doctors, OK.

B. SCHINDLER: ... but we still far outnumbered.

MARY SCHINDLER: And we had 50 doctors.

HANNITY: And Michael didn't say until seven years later that Terri's wishes would be to not be on — seven years later?

B. SCHINDLER: Her wishes did not surface until after he already announced that he intended to marry his fiancee, this woman that he's been with for ten years now.

R. SCHINDLER: Jody Centonze, yes.

HANNITY: Michael used to check the mileage of Terri?

MARY SCHINDLER: Yes.

HANNITY: Why? You knew about this?

MARY SCHINDLER: Yes.

HANNITY: Did Terri ever talk about divorce between the two of them? VITADAMO: She did, to Bobby.

B. SCHINDLER: And her best friend, who was a co-worker where she worked...

VITADAMO: Jackie (ph).

HANNITY: Did you ever know Michael to be violent in any way?

MARY SCHINDLER: Yes.

R. SCHINDLER: Yes.

HANNITY: You did? In what way?

MARY SCHINDLER: Michael had a bad temper.

HANNITY: And you saw it often?

B. SCHINDLER: Well, not often. We saw it...

VITADAMO: It surfaced every now and then, yes.

MARY SCHINDLER: But the psychiatrist told us down at Mediplex that if he got violent, to call the police.

R. SCHINDLER: Well, he went after Suzanne. And I stepped in between the two of them...

MARY SCHINDLER: That was after Terri's collapse.

HANNITY: And the day that she collapsed, she had had an expensive haircut and coloring?

MARY SCHINDLER: Yes. VITADAMO: She had an argument that day with Michael, yes.

MARY SCHINDLER: And they'd argued, yes.

HANNITY: So the bottom line is, you do believe Michael may have had a role and that the police didn't investigate it. Why?

R. SCHINDLER: That's the question. You know, why?

. SCHINDLER: We were told by the local state attorney that, even if Michael attempted to do this to Terri that night, there was a four-year statute on attempted murder. And since there was so much time elapsed, they couldn't do anything anyway.

HANNITY: What do you think about this being politicized? Howard Dean of the Democrats said this is going to be an issue in 2006, 2008. We're going to have an ad with a picture of Tom DeLay saying, "Do you want this guy to decide whether you die or not?" And you know, the Republicans have been under attack for supporting your cause and the family.

R. SCHINDLER: No, I commend them for what they did. I think that they have integrity, moral integrity.

HANNITY: Are you angry at Governor Bush? R. SCHINDLER: I'm disappointed at Governor Bush.

HANNITY: Who else are you angry at, the legal system?

R. SCHINDLER: My goodness, the system is just atrocious.

HANNITY: Judge Greer just got an award.

R. SCHINDLER: That's ludicrous. And I think we're committed as a family that this should never happen again. And there are enough people that are supporting us in what, you know, our plans are. And it should never happen again.

HANNITY: Did you hear about this fireman who recovered, spoke after ten years in...

VITADAMO: Yes, we did.

R. SCHINDLER: Yes.

MARY SCHINDLER: Yes, we did.

VITADAMO: We immediately thought of Terri.

MARY SCHINDLER: What if she had had a chance?

VITADAMO: What if they gave up on him?

R. SCHINDLER: There's an incident...

B. SCHINDLER: As my father just said, our foundation, the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, we are going to continue to speak out and to fight this death group. We have to.

HANNITY: One other thing. In about a month from now, Mark Fuhrman — and I had talked to him about this case and it resulted in him going down and doing a book — Mark Fuhrman's doing a book on this. Do you know what he's going to say in it?

B. SCHINDLER: He had spoken to us. He's asked us several questions. And it goes back to the night Terri collapsed.

VITADAMO: He investigated what happened that night, try to answer that question.

HANNITY: I'm very sorry, though, you guys have been through this. I'm glad you guys came back. And thank you for your time tonight.

VITADAMO: Thank you.

MARY SCHINDLER: Thank you.

R. SCHINDLER: Well, we thank you. And I just — if I can add one more thing, is that people, anybody out there that's listening and watching, they should never, ever let this happen to anyone else.

[floriduh voter]

Terri's California Doc Gets Suspended. Remember the implanter? Read all about it at:

http://www.theempirejournal.com/5090502_license_of_schiavo_docto.htm

[floriduh voter]

Let's just turn your poem into rap and then we just need someone to scratch an old record. I can do that.

I HOPE that someone runs against Jim King up in Duval County. I think it's time for him to go back to private life (so he can count all the money he siphoned off from all the natl trial lawyers).

[floriduh voter]

"Terri's father says, "I am dissapointed in Governor Bush."

Jeb crossed the border to give a speech in Georgia at a fundraiser. They weren't disappointed in him. Saxby Chamblis fawned all over Jebbie.

I will never, ever forgive the GOP for their role in this. They played a major part and folks need to just accept it. The GOP did this and the dems watched.

I dare Jeb to visit Pinellas County and have a townhall meeting. He's too much of a coward and a RINO. Jeb's a RINO.

[floriduh voter]

The Schindlers should be awarded family of the year. I sincerely hope that you never find yourself in a dicey situation. If you do, Terri's freepers will help you out. We aren't going anywhere. Isn't that right, eeevil conservative?

[amdgmary]

This is the man whe refuses to tell Terri's family where her cremated ashes are.

[floriduh voter]

I was relieved that Hannity pre-taped the interview and the setting was tasteful and Colmes wasn't saying anything inappropriate like: so why don't you just get over it?

Like Hannity said "This is far from over."

Lurkers and freepers, stay on the Terri threads at Free Republic and you'll be part of the journey. We want the truth to come out and if we have to fight euthanasia and this death nonsense, Americans should get to vote on it instead of the hostile takeover by the CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

Hostile takeover? Absolutely, those weren't water pistols pointed at people who were praying and holding signs at Hospice Woodside. Those were real swat team members hiding on balconies to pick off any potential rescuers. Those were very large German Shephards on perameter and THE POLICE WERE FOLLOWING PEOPLE HOME, STOPPING THEM, ARRESTING THEM AND HARASSING THEM. Is it any wonder their price tag was over $100,000?

Takeovers are expensive.

[floriduh voter]

The Florida AG was part of the coverup. This will only be investigated when there's a new administration and the Bush's are private citizens. Both of them.

[floriduh voter]

I read today that J. Greer crossed out the word "directed" which means it's Michael's call what he does and when. Greer is never going to hold Michael in contempt for failing to disclose.

Michael hasn't even been deposed yet because of J. Greer. That depo was a last minute no show at least 3 or 4 times for Michael and Jodi. They used Atty Ham Baskin to call at the last minute and say they weren't available for deposition. UNHEARD OF. There must be a stack of certificates of non-appearance building up in the file but to GREER, WHO CARES? He believes he is a god as he has more power than the congress, the president and the governor.

[floriduh voter]

check with meekonegop. He has a Texas ping list.