Posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter
ck out 2023. The Judges in Pinellas want their own hurricane shelter. They are arrogant and shocking!
If this doesn't prove there's an unethical, inappropriate elitist attitude here
in Pinellas, nothing will.
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Let's look at it from a different viewpoint.
Maybe it's God's way of assembling them in one location
so we'll know where to target the Bunker Buster !!! ;-))
I am confused myself about Teron. I guess since a ventilator is not comparable to a feeding tube (nourishment), it would be a case by case decision ethically. However, I trust blogsforterri.com, but yet, they could be mistaken.
I guess one would have to know more about his case, but at this point, what is needed are prayers for him and all concerned.
There's information on end-of-life care issues and euthanasia, if you visit www.priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/euthanasia.html.
"Brain dead" can be difficult to determine.
Here's a story that I have posted before:
It was in a real newspaper, so I don't have a link, "Our Sunday Visitor," the April 10, 2005 edition, & the author is Lori Hadacek Chaplin.
It was suggested to a doctor that they pull the plug of a little baby's ventilator, because he had flat brain waves. The doctor did not, and little Joseph went on to receive straight A's in school, run track and play baseball.
STRAIGHT A's. Now can you imagine how smart he would have been if he HAD brain waves when he was an infant? :)
The doctor, Dr. Byrne, is now a clinical professor of pediatrics at the Medical College of Ohio and HAS BEEN A PERSISTENT VOICE against using brain-wave criteria for DETERMINING DEATH.
I think we all better think twice when allowing the doctors to give our loved ones' organs, because they are declared "brain dead."
Also, organs are more valuable when the patient is alive, but declared "brain dead?"
The storm shelters for the judges and their families should have no food or water and once they're inside, they can't get out. Find out how it feels to be dehydrated and starved to death. They deserve nothing less.
I fear HOSPICE!! I used to have a very good image of hospice but now I think they are hell holes and killing fields. God help us all.
During the time leading up to the murder, during and for a few weeks after, I was in shock!! One night, I didn't sleep all night and had to carry on as usual the next day. Are you sure it wasn't a bad dream? I will never be the same. Most of the republicans look like criminals to me now. Helpless impotent disgusting little boys - especially Jeb Bush. And the insults just keep coming - like sending Jeb Bush to represent all of us at the new Pope's installation. Waiting for the next shoe to drop (the autopsy).
The good news is that I have never felt closer to our Heavenly Father and His Beloved Son, Jesus Christ. Seems to me we are in the end times and Terri was a huge sign. God gave the killers ample time to repent and save His precious daughter but they would have none of it.
Waiting for God's Shoe to drop on them.
I have noticed that, too, that no one wants to talk about what happened to Terri. They want to move on to other topics. Well, I can't help it! I'm stuck here stewing over what they did to Terri and I can't let go of it. I will never be the same.
Visited Terri's memorial site, lit a candle, and cried again. Thank you for all you do.
True Sun, I do agree. I have just seen a person who was brain dead before and it was pretty obvious there was no life there unfortunately for the family. Teenager was hunting and he accidentally shot himself right between the eyes. He was rushed to the hospital locally where my sister was in ICU for a car accident she had been in. He was in the room next to her and I was there when they brought him in. They had him on ventilator, but he was gone. His family was devastated! I even hugged his grandmother cause she obviously needed a hug. I saw the father sign the papers for organ donation and the order to remove the ventilator. It was so sad. But honestly, if multiple doctors(and i mean multiple) do testing and find that someone is brain dead, than I think it is time to let them go. Turn the machine off. If they keep breathing on their own than they are not brain dead, if they stop breathing, and die, than I think a family can know the doctor's knew and can be sure that they were right that their loved one is in fact gone. It isn't easy to do. I support life completely. But there is a big difference between feeding tubes/brain damaged and ventilators/brain dead.
In the past I've donated money to the local hospice, but never again.
This poser should be placed in public places, maybe front lawns, which Greer would be passing.
Tell me please, how is it possible to go for 2 and a half years with NO postings at F.R. whatsoever, and then come out of the blue all of a sudden to post a disguised 'dig' at the 'right'?
I see you used to post quite a bit with Poohbah (who left because FR wasn't 'left' enough) and other libertarians. So are you really poohbah or are you one of the OTHER lefties that supposedly did his opus?
"So are you really poohbah or are you one of the OTHER lefties that supposedly did his opus?"
No, I'm BeholdAPaleHorse, a conservative who wants all illegal aliens and their anchor babies (no matter how many generations removed, including Poohbah) deported.
By the way, what tribe are you?
"I have just seen a person who was brain dead before and it was pretty obvious there was no life there unfortunately for the family. "
I totally agree with you. They want to pretend brain- damaged and brain-dead are the same thing. One referes to the quality of life and the other refers to no life. They are two completely separate issues.
I was disgusted at how the press continually pretended that Terri was brain dead and never questioned Dr. Cranford's description of Terri. She was obviously brain-damaged, but definitely a person, who could feel pain and happiness. Her face lit up when her mother visited her.
I had a friend that was in his home under mobile hospice care some years ago. I tried to help him after everyone gave up on him, but I was threatened with 'jail' if I persisted.
"under construction" - www.theempirejournal.com
With all the horrible things that are happening to young children in Florida and the cold blooded killing of Terri, I am hearing people calling in to talk shows saying they aren't ever coming to Florida. I knew there would be a BACKLASH, I just didn't know when it would begin. I guess it's begun. I'll be posting ALL THE TOWNS within Pinellas County on the May Thread. Pinellas County should be boycotted because the city leaders supported everything that the judges did to Terri by keeping their mouths shut. Tourism is Pinellas County's nutrition and hydration.
""I know for a fact that Larry Klayman has not walked away nor has Randall Terry. As far as I know everyone you named is still active re: Terri. Wherever you heard that stuff, your source is jumping to conclusions. Sometimes, these folks are unreachable by phone. It doesn't mean anything.""
I agree, FV. It is difficult to get ahold of people that are so involved in many different things. Also, in my opinion, they worked very for Terri by giving of their time and probably lots of money too. They were flying back and forth to Washington DC and etc. You could tell just by looking at Larry Klaman and the others, how upset and frustrated they were by what was happening to Terri. The pain on their faces were so obvious by viewing them on the news programs.
I admire all who did so much to help Terri. I really thought she would be saved after all the efforts of so many great people. I'll never understand why Greer's order was allowed to go forth. And I'll never forget those chilling words from the pits of hell, on Feb 25, 2005, when Greer spoke the execution order.
Why on earth would Judges need or want special houses for huricanes?? They can move inland and not worry about the problem.
I am noticing lots of people are still in disbelief and they feel betrayed by our leaders who let a sleazy judge with connections sign someone's life away. It's a sense of loss for Terri and a sense of loss for our nation. It certainly wasn't just the religious right. It is HUGE to kill someone like Florida did when it was apparent how well Terri was doing. I saw a picture of her with her mom. She looked well. How could they?
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