Posted on 04/03/2005 5:19:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter
which, though so disturbing in the initial event that called him so totally to this cause in a new and vigorous way, it also contains a thoroughly enjoyable description of the slapdown of the Clinton administration's Solicitor General in front of the Supreme Court.(Jay Sekulow and a team of pro-life attorneys defended Dr. Schenck.)
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Gospel Of Life Is Gospel Of Hope, Says Schenck
When Dr. Paul Schenck talks, pro-lifers should listen.
And listen they did, all 200 of them at the Respect Life Conference sponsored by the Baltimore Archdioceses Respect Life Conference November 13.
When Dr. Schenck was a Protestant pastor in western New York, he recalled, a parishioner brought him a bag from an abortion clinic near her house that contained the remains of four unborn children eviscerated, decapitated, dismembered.
Schenck had always believed that abortion was evil, but seeing that pile of carnage propelled him into two decades of fervent pro-life activism that continues to this day.
I said, Well bury the babies; well give them a funeral.
They held funerals on the front lawn of the church, with Catholic, Protestant and Jewish clergy taking part.
His parishioners wanted to pray in front of the abortion mill, But they said they wouldnt go unless I went with them.
Eventually, not only Pastor Schenck, but about 75 other clergy were volunteering to stand with the pro-lifers outside abortion mills in western New York.
In 1988 a federal judge ordered Reverend Schenck and others to keep 15 feet away from clinic entrances and something new to keep 15 feet away from abortion mill employees or abortion clients, wherever they were what came to be known as the floating bubble zone.
Two years later, for handing out Bibles near an abortion mill, Schenck was found guilty of violating the judges injunction, fined $300,000 and sentenced to two years in federal prison.
He spent a month in the federal correctional facility in McKean, Pa. (I was kept busy morning, noon and night, ministering to men in the worst crisis of their lives) and five months under house arrest.
In the meantime, his case slowly wound its way through the courts on appeal.
In 1996 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear his case.
We prayed and asked the Lord to confuse the opposition, said Schenck.
President Clinton sent Walter Dellinger, his solicitor general, to argue against me. When he got up to argue, he kept calling the justices by the wrong names!
In frustration, said Schenck, He slapped himself in the face and asked, How come I keep doing this?
We knew why!
Dellinger finally argued that when a trial judge is faced with pro-lifers who keep violating his injunction at abortion clinics, what is he supposed to do?
Justice Anthony Kennedy replied tartly, Well, I think he would begin by reading the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
The Supreme Court ruled 8-1 that the federal judges floating bubble zone had violated Reverend Schencks constitutional right to free speech.
Today, as executive director of Gospel of Life Ministries, in Washington, D.C., Dr. Schenck is working to combine the pro-life efforts of Catholics and Evangelicals to restore a culture of life to the United States.
He is doing so from the perspective of a convert to Catholicism, having become a Catholic this past Lent, the most joyous Lent of my life!
From his offices in Capitol Hill, adjacent to the Supreme Court, Dr. Schenck can look directly into Chief Justice Rehnquists library.
Weve been able to establish good relationships with many of them; weve had prayer with five of the nine justices, he said.
Schenck believes that the American people have reached a great crisis point but it is a good crisis.
People are evaluating the role of faith in their lives, he said.
He noted that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia once said that religion had become like pornography something only to be indulged in privately.
But the election results tell us that moral values were at the top of the list; dedicated Christians who take their faith seriously decided the election.
There are countless people in our society from whom hope, faith and love have been taken away; They reach out to embrace, by default, the Culture of Death.
We need to offer this society hope, because the Gospel of Life is the gospel of hope, he said.
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This good and godly man has already done and given so much in the cause of life, I have no doubt he will be a very prominent figure on the frontlines for the fight for life against the merciless butchers of the innocent, aged, infirmed and disabled. God Bless Him for his devotion.
Terri, always in our hearts.
I believe MS has twice inadvertently admitted -- once in sworn testimony, once on LKL -- that he was killing Terri to spite the Schindlers. I didn't save the references, but assume that they can be located. If anyone has them set aside, please post or let me know.
Of course on a more recent LKL, after the usual lies about Terri wanting to die, he tripped up again and admitted, "We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want... "
That never occurred to me. I don't know anything about cocaine or how it mixes with alcohol. But I imagine if MS was already in an ugly mood, it would have been uglier on drugs. He might have just gone home and attacked her physically -- maybe when she was still in bed. No shouting, just choking the life out of her. He's twice her size, she didn't have a chance.
Good for you!
Laura posted the following message about breast cancer on her website http://www.lauraingraham.com/
PRAYER REQUEST FOR LAURA: You know I hate Drama Kings or Queens, but I am asking for your prayers today and for the forseeable future. On Friday afternoon, I learned that I have joined the ever-growing group of American women who have been diagnosed with breast cancer. As so many breast cancer patients will tell you, it all came as a total shock.
I am blessed to be surrounded by people who love me--my family, a wonderful fiance (if he thinks he's going to get out of marrying me because of this little blib, he's sadly mistaken!), my friends, and my church. I am absolutely blown away by how helpful and kind everyone has been--including total strangers who have experienced the same rollercoaster of emotions. The sisterhood of breast cancer survivors is inspiring. I am truly blessed. On Tuesday I will have an operation and within a few days will know more about the future. I am hopeful for a bright future and a "normal" life (well, scratch the "normal" part). Anyway, people have gone through much worse, and I know I'll obliterate this.
I am thanking you in advance for your prayers. You are my family. And remember, I'll be back sooner than you think.
New reports on Terri Schiavo at The North Country Gazette
www.northcountrygazette.org
THE NEW SLAUGHTER HOUSE RULES
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/042605hen.html
SCHIAVO AUTOPSY WILL NOT CONFIRM DIAGNOSIS
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/042605autopsy.html
Diane Coleman, President of Not-Dead-Yet, spoke before the Federal Oversight Committee Hearing on incapacitated persons on April 19, 2005.
Ms. Coleman offered suggestions on what the lawmakers can do to help stop the movement to euthanize people who are vulnerable and cannot speak for themselves.
http://www.notdeadyet.org/docs/ColemanCongTestmy041905.html
EXCERPTS
It wasn't long before the problem of non-voluntary and involuntary withdrawal of food and water also moved onto Not Dead Yet's radar screen. Before Terri Schiavo, there was Robert Wendland in California. Both his wife and mother agreed that Mr. Wendland was not in a persistent vegetative state, and that he had not left clear and convincing evidence of his wishes. Nevertheless, his wife argued that she should be able to remove his tube feeding anyway, and Dr. Ron Cranford was on the scene to support her. A state statute, based on a national model health care decisions code, gave her the right to starve and dehydrate him, and forty-three bioethicists filed a friend of the court brief in agreement. Ten disability rights organizations filed against the general presumption that no one would want to live with his disabilities, being used to justify lowering constitutional protections of his life. Ultimately, the California Supreme Court agreed with us that his life could not be taken without clear and convincing evidence of his wishes.
By the time the Schiavo case reached major national attention in 2003, twenty-six national disability organizations had taken a position that Terri Schiavo should receive food and water, due to the highly conflicting evidence of her wishes and the fact that she had not chosen her own guardian. Attached to my written testimony is a three page statement issued by twenty-three such groups in October 2003, and a more recent article co-authored by Steve Eidelman, head of the Arc of the United States, and Stephen Drake, research analyst for Not Dead Yet. We were deeply disturbed to see court after court uphold questionable lower court rulings. This time, 55 bioethicists supported the removal of food and water. We were also disturbed that the court allowed most of Terri Schiavo's rehabilitation funds to be spent on her husband's lawyers, that she was denied a properly fitted wheelchair, a swallowing test, swallowing therapy, the potential for oral feeding, speech therapy, and the freedom to leave the hospice with her parents, even temporarily. And we were concerned that adult protective services did not intervene, and the state protection and advocacy agency tried but proved powerless. It would appear that the prevalent prejudice that no one would want to live like Terri Schiavo translated into her guardian's unfettered right to treat her at best as a prisoner, at worst as though she was already dead.
Nevertheless, the perspectives of such prominent national groups as The Arc of the United States (formerly the Association for retarded Citizens), the National Spinal Cord Injury Association, the National Council on Independent Living, and many others were consistently ignored by most of the press, as well as the courts.
Unfortunately, the anecdotal evidence suggests that Terri Schiavo's case may be the tip of a very large and almost fully submerged iceberg. I've been a health care advocate for a couple decades, often joining street protests against government health cuts. One mission of the end-of-life care movement is a good one, to educate health care providers about how to provide good palliative care, but another mission is to shape public policy on health care. It appears that a certain line of thought in bioethics has pretty much taken over the policy-making work. This line of thought involves a lifeboat approach, deciding who gets thrown out.
When we analyze, why have the pro-life and religious advocates received such disproportionate attention, we are forced to conclude that disability rights advocates don't fit a script that everyone else seems determined to follow. For the last three decades, certain bioethicists have told the press and the public that euthanasia is about compassionate progressives versus the religious right. Never mind that these bioethicists are actually talking about the legal parameters for statutory guardians and health care providers to medically end the lives of people with disabilities on a discriminatory, non-voluntary or involuntary basis. Never mind that it takes more documentation to dispose of our property than to dispose of our lives. Concerned disability groups don't fit the script and so we have been marginalized or ignored entirely.
To conclude, regardless of our abilities or disabilities, none of us should feel that we have to die to have dignity, that we have to die to be relieved of pain, or that we should die to stop burdening our families or society. Cognitive abilities must not be allowed to determine personhood under the laws of the United States. Reject the script you have been given by the right to die and the right to life movements. Instead, listen to the disability movement. We are your advance guard, in anticipation of the aging of our society, with decades of experience in living with disability. We want to help build a society that respects and welcomes everyone.
BUMP
I was looking on the Internet to find more information on cocaine alcohol interactions. From what I read it does appear to cause quite a few problems as cocaine is a stimulant and alcohol a depressent.
This article is pretty interesting as the victim was attacked by someone high on cocaine and alcohol and seems to have been left in the same medical condition as Terri
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4469299.stm
Hey what the H
Over 1,800 posts - let this woman rest - enough all ready.
Turn the page - geeeezzzzzzz - anybody else getting sick of this??
Only you because your in the wrong place.
If you don't like it, newbie, move along. Plenty of other topics for you to pick from.
How do you do this? What happens when you decline to state? Is it similar to Independent? I want to change from Dem to similar. Let me know.
Could it be that there is something about insurance companies.. Jergers for instance.. Jergers knew Jodi and also could it be that they knew each other when he worked for Agostino's?
Could it also be that Michael went out with various other women before Jodi to make it not be so obvious that he knew Jodi, etc.?
"why have the pro-life and religious advocates received such disproportionate attention, we are forced to conclude that disability rights advocates don't fit a script that everyone else seems determined to follow. For the last three decades, certain bioethicists have told the press and the public that euthanasia is about compassionate progressives versus the religious right. "
EXACTLY what I have been writing to every journalist or blogger in the country. It is frightening the backward slide of services provided to those most needy.
He basically said he was going to kill Terri no matter what.. basically that no one was going to stop him.
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