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Judging Terri: how one agent of government decided the facts, the evidence and the law
Townhall.com ^ | April 1, 2005 | Jan M. LaRue

Posted on 04/03/2005 6:30:51 AM PDT by OESY

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To: mercy

The documents posted at that link are very informative... I recommend them to anyone who's actually interested in the legalities of this case.


41 posted on 04/03/2005 9:56:48 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: jlegolf
I would love to see Judge Greer impeached but you have to consider that this was effectively done and failed last November. Judge Greer stood for re-election and the "good" people of Pinellas County kept him on the bench by a margin of 2:1. And this was done with the full knowledge of Terri's situation. What makes you think the outcome would be any different now?

While an impeachment proceeding might offer a review of the facts and make it clear for all to see that Greer's judgment was sorely lacking, I think you are misdirecting your efforts. It would be far better to work towards legislation that would allow for correction of the error of a single trier of fact.

42 posted on 04/03/2005 10:10:23 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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To: OESY
Bottom Line: FL law does say a feeding tube can be removed... HOWEVER...it does not say you can order the withholding of nutrition and hydration from person WHO IS NOT DYING!
43 posted on 04/03/2005 10:14:24 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: Saundra Duffy

DITTO: IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!


44 posted on 04/03/2005 10:19:37 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: mercy; All
Since the 3rd & 4th decisions concern her medical condition they are ONLY relevant IF there was "convincing evidence" that Terri "would not want the tube." What do we know about this?

REPORT TO CIRCUIT COURT, GUARDIAN AD LITEM PEARSE - 12/29/98
[ One of your secondary links. One that you chose to mischaracterize. ]

Concerning Michaels representation of Terri's "intent"
"In the opinion of the undersigned guardian ad lite, Mr SCHIAVO'S credibility is also adversely affected by the chronology of this case. For the first four years (approximately) following the ward's accident, he aggressively pursued every manner of treatment and rehabilitation conceivable, as well as lawsuits to compensate the ward for her injuries in connection with he presumably argued that she would require substantial funds for future care and treatment. At or about the time the litigation was finally concluded, he has a change of heart concerning further treatment..."
( p. 12, par. 2 )

TRAIL/CIRCUIT COURT, JUDGE GREER - 2/11/00 DECISION

How to make your decision to disregard all Shindler witnesses appeal proof: make it based on demeanor
"The court has had the opportunity to hear witnesses, observe their demeanor, hear inflections, note pregnant pauses, and in all manners assess credibility above and beyond the spoken or typed word."
( page 3, paragraph 3 )

How to arrogantly brush aside a conflict reported by your own guardian ad litem: "hardly seems worthy of comment"
"It has been suggested that Michael Schiavo has not acted in good faith by waiting eight plus years to file the Petition which is under consideration. That assertion hardly seems worthy of comment other than to say that he should not be faulted for having done what those opposed to him want to be continued."
( page 4 - paragraph 3 )

APPEALS COURT, JUDGE ALTENBERND - 1/24/01 DECISION

How to defer to the trial judge and still call it a full appeal
"Her statements to her friends and family about the dying process were few and they were oral. Nevertheless, those statements, along with other evidence about Theresa, gave the trial court a sufficient basis to make this decision for her."
( 2nd to last paragraph )

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As for your "excellent, official time line of events"
Notice that the Schindler parent's separation was included BUT NOT when Michael moved in with his other women nor when he had two kids with that women... Well I guess Shepard Broad Law Center can be "official" without being objective. More young ghouls like Felos in training.

45 posted on 04/03/2005 10:26:57 AM PDT by drpix
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To: OESY
Greer exceeded his authority under Florida law

Which is all that is needed to have an impeachment trial in the Florida state senate.

He also violated Terri Schindler's Constitutional rights under the U.S. Constitution. For that, he can and should be brought up on federal charges. Just because he's a judge doesn't mean his actions are immune from consequence.

46 posted on 04/03/2005 10:31:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: OESY

bump


47 posted on 04/03/2005 10:33:22 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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To: MizSterious

Love your tagline.


48 posted on 04/03/2005 10:36:14 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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To: OESY

I just read Greer's decision.

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder02-00.pdf

I cannot believe that a woman's life has been ended on what he accepted as "clear and convincing evidence." He had nothing but a couple of offhand comments. Not worth the paper they were printed on.

He discounted the testimony of one of her friends that Terri objected to the treatment of Karen Quinlan on grounds that if the discussion happened, Terri would only have been a kid when she said it. But it turns out that the judge's basis for saying this was his own mistaken notion about when Karen Quinlan died (he thinks it was 1976, when in fact it was 1985).

And not one of the appeals courts caught this? Well, I guess they don't call it Floriduh for nothing.

Read his decision. It's mind-blowing.


49 posted on 04/03/2005 10:52:14 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: OESY
If you still have the stomach after reading Greer, take a look at the very brief appellate court ruling affirming him:

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/2dcaorder01-01.txt

We conclude that the trial court's decision is supported by competent, substantial evidence and that it correctly applies the law.

I don't think I would ever consider retiring to Florida after this.

50 posted on 04/03/2005 11:06:17 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: vaudine

pubic=public in my earlier post.

Although pubic polling would robably get a smarter response.

vaudine


51 posted on 04/03/2005 12:49:19 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: GeekDejure

Now I really am curious why the judge had to make such a statement as he did to refuse any care for the girl other than the feeding tube which had been removed.


52 posted on 04/03/2005 1:43:44 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

WOW.........I think we will have all kinds of variations on your tag line soon!!*G* I have not ceased praying that God would remove that man and ALL the rest that would be just like him. I personally would like to see California's ENTIRE 9th circus court VANISH into thin air!!!


53 posted on 04/03/2005 1:49:29 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Thebaddog

Now I really am curious why the judge had to make such a statement as he did to refuse any care for the girl other than the feeding tube which had been removed.

=======

To be certain that Terri would DIE as quickly as possible !!!




54 posted on 04/03/2005 2:12:18 PM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Future Useless Eater; 4Godsoloved..Hegave; 8mmMauser; a5478; atruelady; Brad's Gramma; Cayenne; ...

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


55 posted on 04/03/2005 5:17:40 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: drpix
>> At or about the time the litigation was finally concluded, he has a change of heart concerning further treatment..."

Five minutes after he got the money.

56 posted on 04/03/2005 7:48:43 PM PDT by T'wit (Liberalism reduces America from a Shining City on a Hill to a fetid slum in a fever swamp)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Good idea!


57 posted on 04/03/2005 8:36:51 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: freespirited

Bump for Terri - to keep her memory alive and demand justice.


58 posted on 04/03/2005 8:41:41 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Rest in Peace, Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!)
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59 posted on 04/03/2005 8:43:42 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

amen brother.


60 posted on 04/03/2005 8:59:30 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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