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Rancher in border case backs Minutemen
Denton Record-Chronicle ^ | April 2, 2005 | TRACEY EATON

Posted on 04/03/2005 5:06:19 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I don’t think using the term “invasion” was much of a stretch.


61 posted on 04/03/2005 1:10:32 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
You make your points clearly. I was concerned about the other guy.

"He didn't mean that was a stretch did he?" about invasions. I hope he didn't. Ah well. We might still have some hard work ahead of us, if things like Balkanization and Kosovo aren't being comprehended.
62 posted on 04/03/2005 1:38:01 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Marine Inspector

" legal immigrants and illegal immigrants"

Please...you're starting to get PC. It's actually "legal immigrants and illegal aliens."


63 posted on 04/03/2005 2:28:33 PM PDT by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
".. In 2003, his own efforts drew national attention after he invited members of a group called Ranch Rescue to help him patrol his property, about six miles from Hebbronville off State Highway 16. A Salvadoran man and his wife claimed that the volunteers detained them unlawfully, threatened them and accosted them. Immigrant advocates sued Ranch Rescue, along with Mr. Sutton and his wife, Betty.

The parties settled the lawsuit, which Mr. Sutton saw as a vindication, but he said the experience left him less willing to take matters into his own hands..."

I wonder what the terms of the settlement were?

Southern Poverty Law Center version *here*. Expect considerable propaganda.

64 posted on 04/03/2005 2:41:07 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

We seem to be well on our way to Balkanization.


65 posted on 04/03/2005 2:44:24 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: archy
I can't believe how the SPLC's "case" against Sutton & Ranch Rescue is worded:

"Ending illegal intimidation against immigrants"

when "suppressing American's right to defend against illegal immigrants" would be far more truthful.

They seemed to make up for that (somewhat) when describing their intent:

"Leiva v. Ranch Rescue has the important goal of stopping violent paramilitary activity along the US-Mexico border. If vigilante groups like Ranch Rescue and the ranchers who conspire with them are forced to pay money damages for their unlawful actions, they will think twice before taking the law into their own hands and attacking peaceful, unarmed migrants in the future."

BTW - good to see you posting again.

66 posted on 04/03/2005 3:20:46 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (This MMP thread may be pulled at any time for your own good.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
BTW - good to see you posting again.

I'm around, still limping quite a bit, but back to making morning runs around the local track with National Guardsmen, ROTC cadets, and recent returnees from The Sandbox.

They don't slow me down TOO much.

67 posted on 04/03/2005 3:24:35 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: archy
LOL! That's the spirit!

Of course, my instructors always told me that if I applied what they taught correctly running will always be the other guy's job (bless their evil little hearts).

68 posted on 04/03/2005 3:33:57 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (This MMP thread may be pulled at any time for your own good.)
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To: scout34
There are thousands of Mexican troops on the border right now, and these guys make a handsome living on the side by helping the narcotrafficantes cross the border, in some instances by laying down SUPPRESSIVE FIRE across the border or firing at USBP helicopters. USBP is instructed to avoid confrontations and exits the area, allowing for the drug laden trucks to enter the US unhindered.

How I would love for them to try this one day with a previously undetected Marine division in the area - with permission to attack once the first bullet is fired into US territory and to engage the Mexican army on either side of the border for as long as necessary until they are destroyed.

It would only have to happen once. Vicente Fox wouldn't dare squawk to the UN - he'd instead frantically try to pass the incident off as a misunderstanding, and the illegal migration would slow down dramatically. ;)

69 posted on 04/03/2005 3:42:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: R. Scott
Yes, calling them “vigilantes” with the modern negative connotation is stretching it.

Negative connotations? How about this, from an article I read a few minutes ago:

Many of the Minuteman volunteers were recruited over the Internet and some plan to be armed for protection. (ABC Action News)

I think that is supposed to have a negative connotation. Probably does, to the average left-wing idiot.

70 posted on 04/03/2005 3:42:33 PM PDT by Aarchaeus
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Of course, my instructors always told me that if I applied what they taught correctly running will always be the other guy's job (bless their evil little hearts).


71 posted on 04/03/2005 4:28:35 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Elmer Piddlestone

I think it's more likely he likes his $5.00/hour landscaping.


73 posted on 04/03/2005 4:58:56 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Aarchaeus

With a very large and vicious Latino criminal gang supposedly on the way and with the very real possibility of encountering armed drug and people smugglers they would be fools not to be armed.


74 posted on 04/03/2005 5:01:21 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: schaketo
A policy of open immigration will advance the economic well-being of all Americans.

A policy of open immigration will advance the economic well-being of all Americans.

I'm willing to learn, show me in history where open immigration has worked.

Slaves brought to America were cheap labor and we still are working through that mess. Aren't the Palestinians "workers" in Israel?

I know I've read in history about disastrous consequences to more than one nation who brought in cheap labor.

75 posted on 04/03/2005 5:17:22 PM PDT by RJL
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To: RJL

Turks in Germany...
Pakistanis in France...
Southeast Asians in Australia...
Just about every other Islamist country buggering England...

Those country's problems are compounded by "the religion of peace"; ours is pretty much a matter of law and economic imbalance in the abutting country.

Here in the U.S. the pseudo-religion of Liberalism more than makes up for the hassles those nations have to deal with.


76 posted on 04/03/2005 7:27:38 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Thank you, JimRob, for giving us enough rope...)
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To: HiJinx

Forget "Illegals doing the jobs Americans won't do,"

it's

"Americans doing the work that their government won't do."


77 posted on 04/03/2005 8:02:50 PM PDT by adam_az (UN out of the US! - http://www.moveamericaforward.org/?Page=Petition)
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To: archy

The more I look at it the more I realize that that's the most offensively jingo-militaristic patch I've ever seen.

Awesome! Scan more!


78 posted on 04/03/2005 9:46:29 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Never bring a public education to a battle of wits. If it's a battle of twits that's acceptable.)
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To: archy

nice patch!


79 posted on 04/03/2005 9:48:04 PM PDT by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I would love to see that also, but "It ain't never gonna happen!!!" USMC orders come from above and the orders coming from above are to AVOID any confrontation...


80 posted on 04/11/2005 1:19:30 PM PDT by logic ("All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing......")
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