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WHO WILL BE THE NEXT POPE?
Slate.com ^ | October 15, 2003 | Steven Waldman

Posted on 04/02/2005 7:44:12 PM PST by MHT

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To: AKSurprise
If I have to pick from your list, I'll take this one:

Jean-Baptist Gurion OSB Oliv

141 posted on 04/03/2005 10:35:27 AM PDT by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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To: AKSurprise

It could be good for a relatively unknown bishop to become pope. An unknown will not necessarily have invested too much in playing the games of politics and could potentially push forward some very valuable changes in the Church.

While it is nice to talk about reuniting the Christian churches, it seems most expedient for the Church to get her own house in order first - namely, curtailing liturgical abuses, addressing the clerical abuses, remedying the homosexual seminarian problems, and working to heal the crises of faith that have arisen for many of the faithful. It would be good to see rifts between the Church and Traditionalist groups like SSPX bridged as well. It is only after the problems plaguing the Western Church are fixed that we can move forward towards the greater unity among Christians that we seek.


142 posted on 04/03/2005 10:37:06 AM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: HitmanNY

I'm also hoping for Arinze.


144 posted on 04/03/2005 11:01:09 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (God grant you rest Holy Father.)
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To: Netizen
"With all these variations or possibilities, it makes me wonder if a bit of Nostradamus hindsight will take place after the fact."

That's my concern too. I'm not knocking the prophecies, but you have to wonder. Isn't there some old saying about finding any connection to something else if you look hard enough?

That said, the "Glory of the Olive" according to the prophecy will do great things for the Church. "De Gloria Olivae/From the Glory of the Olives: The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil."

145 posted on 04/03/2005 11:27:32 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (God grant you rest Holy Father.)
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To: sinkspur

Wait, you believe in the prophecy of St. Malachy? You don't believe in any other apparition, miracle, or prophecy, but you believe in that?


146 posted on 04/03/2005 2:31:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

I absolutely DO NOT believe in the prophecy of St. Malachy. It's superstition.


147 posted on 04/03/2005 2:32:52 PM PDT by sinkspur (Be not afraid. Be not afraid.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide; BobS
>WHO WILL BE THE NEXT POPE?
>>Me
>>>No - Me


148 posted on 04/03/2005 2:36:12 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: sinkspur

Then why are you endorsing it?


149 posted on 04/03/2005 2:51:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

I'm not endorsing it. What's the matter with you? You are distorting every single thing I say.


150 posted on 04/03/2005 2:54:39 PM PDT by sinkspur (Be not afraid. Be not afraid.)
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To: MHT
Since no one has clearly come to the fore, I, AMPU will throw my hat into the ring. I will do it quietly on this forum and I would appreciate your support. If elected, I will serve with honor - though not catholic. I have plans for how I would use my new position to bless all.

My constituency here on FR will, of course, be favorites of mine. You will be "in". You will have a direct pipeline.

I wish you all well.

ampu

151 posted on 04/03/2005 2:58:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: TWohlford
As I recall my history, there have already been 3 black Popes: Saint Victor I, who reigned from 189 to 199 A.D., Saint Miltiades, who reigned from 311 to 314, and Saint Gelasius I, who reigned from 492 to 496.

Uh, black and African aren't synonymous. The Africans of the 2nd-5th centuries which you name were most likely ethnic Romans.
152 posted on 04/03/2005 3:05:14 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

In this spirit, I throw my hat into the ring. And unlike the other candidates, I actually am Catholic.

If selected, I will bring back the Inquisition and apply it to so-called liberal "intellectuals" trying to undermine the Church's moral message.

I will set the Swiss guards on ABC, CBS and NBC reporters.

I will refer to Socialists in all my public proclamations as "amoral bastards".

If there is another Terri Schiavo, I will bring her water personally and I will excommunicate anyone who tries to get in my way.

I will excommunicate the entire Kennedy family.

I will maintain good relations with the Anglicans, but will excommunicate Gene Robinson.

I will not be visiting any mosques.

Bono, and most other pop stars are not welcome. Ted Nugent, however, may come.

I will bring back the Latin Mass with a vengeance.

New "politically correct" versions of the Bible will be burned in a massive bonfire in St. Peter's Square.

Oh, and Pope John Paul II will be made a Saint.

Regards,

Pope Ivan I (Just kidding)


153 posted on 04/03/2005 3:06:31 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
OK, Ivan...

this one upsmanship doesn't bode well for your selection!

ampu

154 posted on 04/03/2005 3:40:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mears

I like Ratzinger.


155 posted on 04/03/2005 3:46:50 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: Netizen
But Gurion is not a cardinal, and regardless of the possibility that the next pope can come from a rank other than "cardinal", the probability is unlikely. There are just too many bishops for the voting cardinals to have known with any sense of spiritual certainty or direction. It's like saying that the Mayor of Dallas will be the next President.

The first bet I'm placing is on whether or not it will be a cardinal and I'm saying "yes".

156 posted on 04/03/2005 4:28:46 PM PDT by MHT
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To: MHT

I only picked that one because it said 'oliv' next to their name. ;)


157 posted on 04/04/2005 1:20:49 AM PDT by Netizen (USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
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To: Gal.5:1

or maybe Lustiger...


158 posted on 04/06/2005 8:32:58 AM PDT by Gal.5:1 (Christ frees from the bondage of legalism, works, religion)
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