Posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Legal setbacks for Terri Schiavo's parents continue even after the brain-damaged woman's death.
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office denied the parents' request to have independent medical experts observe Schiavo's autopsy has been denied.
Over their seven-years-long legal battle, Bob and Mary Schindler sought independent investigation of their daughter's condition. They wanted to select a neuropathologist and a forensic expert to observe her autopsy.
The autopsy was completed yesterday. Results are not expected for several weeks.
Terri Schiavo's body was cremated today. Her husband plans to bury her remains in a family plot in Pennsylvania. He is required to tell the Schindlers about any memorial services he plans for her, and where the ashes are interred.
The Schindlers have planned their own memorial service for their daughter Tuesday night in Gulfport.
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“But please cut it out with these over the top Nazi analogies.” SoCar
Actually it started before the Nazis by an “enlightened” progressive secular humanist government. So you’re right to keep mentioning the Nazis in comparison to what happened here is not right, they just used what was already law to do what they did.
They keep the organs. The brain is in formalin as we speak waiting to be fixed for sectioning. Once they cut sections, the organs are kept for a while and then destroyed.
What is sectioned at the time of the post is put back in the body and released. If it is immportant, pics are taken.
Geeze, I am tired of talking about autopsy. What was cremated is generally a shell of a body with organs removed. And yes, brains are kept in big plastic containers full of formalin.
Diog, if you want to have a conspiracy be my guest.
Professional jealousy perhaps?
I read a few articles on this new ME down there, and he sounded like a moral enough guy. But, I'm afraid there is no way for a man in his position not to get caught up in what appears to be a very intricate and ongoing crime. He may have no choice.
Whatever Wecht's motives, and he is said to have been asked by the parents, the ME down there should have allowed the observation, just to keep suspicion off himself.
If true, so what.
I think you're right Jeff. No good reason for not allowing an impartial observer.
If what is true?
An observor picked by the family is not impartial, would you not agree?
We don't know who was in that room for the autopsy. If I were Thog, I would have asked two forensic patholigists from outside Florida who were truly immpartial, serious and without the desire to write books or appear on Larry King.
The number of autopsies he's done is surely a reasonable way to judge his professionalism.
So what if he "would walk out of the room, go straight to the microphones" as you worry. So what if THAT is true. Who cares?
As long as there is more light and exposure on the autopsy (examination), that is all that matters. Right? Who cares if old Cyril's ego gets fed, it's not important. The case is important.
I wondered how Judge Greer was able to get the cops and the doctors at the prison hospice that Terri was incarcerated in to follow his order. I thought that the judiciary does not own the police, the doctors, the National Guard, nothing, they have nothing to back up their judicial decress, so what makes it happen that we all bow down to their capricious whims?
"***No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church!***"
LOL!!! A godless church could be his only refuge. Judge Greer reminds me of Judge Roy Bean.
I'm sure that Pope John Paul II is having quite a session with God right now about certain puny lowlife humans at this very moment.
Even with the autopsy report from the ME do you think it would be impossible?
You are sooooooo right.
Also, the evidence was cremated, rather than held might there be an inquiry, or question, or grand jury.
Yes, what will be done if there are disputes.
It's a COVERUP and a "perfect crime" ........ by a multitude of nasty characters, imo.
Seems to me that what is needed for this autopsy is a sober, serious, professional examination of the evidence.
This case is already a ghastly circus. At some point the circus becomes more important to all the parties than the reality.
A woman is dead. The pathologist, who is well credentialed, can do the autopsy. Others can look at the evidence at any point. Cyril Wecht whatever his expertise, is there for media exposure for his giant ego. I don't know that that contributes to a sober accounting of what the evidence in this autopsy shows.
And Thogmartin runs his shop. You and have have no idea who was there at the post. Isuggest we wait and see. And the autopsy table is no place for opposing parties to play out their roles as partisans.
We differ in our opinions, that is obvious. I suggest we leave it at that.
Pam Anderson has been interviewed several times over the years by our local talk show host, Barbara Simpson, KSFO 560 AM. She has a show on Saturday and Sundays 4:00 pm to 7:00pm PT.
Barbara Simpson writes columns regularly on WorldNetDaily, I think that is the name of Joseph Farrah's web site. Barbara has been following the Terri Schiavo case for a long time and has written much about Terri's fight.
Pam and Barbara suggested that we swamp Jeb Bush's office with this request to appoint a special independent prosecutor because there are too many unanswwered questions and too many conflicting reports that were conveniently thrown out by the swamp judge greer.
As for the chances it being done...that's up to Jeb Bush, and depending on how he reads his political tea leaves, I'm certain he wants to just wash his hands of this. My hopes are he won't hide from it, but will do it so all lingering questions and doubts can be put to rest, if possible.
As for the outcome of this entire situation, what did people expect?
Over 40,000,000 of the most helpless people have been slaughtered in brutal disregard for those who cannot speak for themselves since Roe v. Wade. Removed from their "feeding tube". All they needed was for the legal 'next of kin' to decide they wouldn't want to live under whatever circumstances were extrapolated for them.
Logically, if we require that helpless living people (the ones who have been born and have lived to adulthood) not be discarded without a high standard of proof that they would want it this way, could we not carry that standard into the arena of abortion on demand?
What about numerous known instances of newborns killed by non-medical people shortly after birth? (murder) Children starved to death in their cradles?(murder) Killing mother and unborn child? (double murder)
Somehow, the courts have succeded in defining murder as not being murder if committed against those who are helpless to speak, on someone else's say-so.
You say there is no effort underway to exterminate disabled people. I am not so sure. If it is present, it is in its relative infancy. This might be the hairline crack in that dam that eventually leads to complete failure.
That said, those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it. The actions taken against the disabled in Nazi Germany were the beginning, and not the end.
I hear you, I just want justice. Whatever that takes is fine with moi.
...but had already been finalized several weeks before her death.
Dan
yup!
Yet the more unfounded opinions are, we often find that the more vehemently those unfounded opinions are asserted.
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