Routine returns a sense of calm (Nurse Aignes admits Terri had feelings!!)

www.sptimes.com ^ | 4/2/05 | Halls

[Halls]

"She wasn't able to verbalize," said Agines, the nursing supervisor. "But if she was uncomfortable, because the staff had been with her so long, we knew. If she moved, we knew what it meant. We knew when she should settle down with a different piece of music."

Seems to me from this comment that Terri had feeling and emotion and all the nurses at the Hospice where Terri died at knew it!! Guess this means she wasn't PVS afterall!! Cause people with PVS don't feel or have emotion. Also means we know she felt her death of dehydration and starvation!!!

[Blzbba]

"Dr. Theresa Buck, the staff physician, understands the danger. ... "They said she is talking and asking for things," Buck said. "I had dinner with them Wednesday night and couldn't convince them that's not true. And I'm here every day."


I'll take the doctor's word over that of a nursing supervisor...

[Halls]

The Nurses are who spent time with terri and saw more than a doctor ever saw! I take the word of the nurse!

[Hildy]

But wait, I thought everybody was angry that the nurses who came foreward with affadavits weren't being taken seriously. At least be consistant.

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[Halls]

thanks for fixing it and won't make the mistake again!

[thoughtomator]

For something like this, I'm not so sure. The nurses spend a lot more time with the patients than the doctors do.

[Romanov]

That article just emphasizes to me why I could never work in the medical profession. I don't know how they do it - God bless them.

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[Jim Noble]

Nurse Aignes admits Terri Schiavo had feelings!!!!!

So what?

If she didn't, then kill her?

This case has always been about whether or not it is OK to kill brain-damaged people, if their brain damage is severe enough.

The debate over whether or not Terri Schiavo had "PVS" or not has the killers licking their chops.

She had profound, severe brain damage. It was not going to improve.

What you call it, which degree of severity you apply to it, is of no significance-UNLESS YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE VIEW THAT ONCE IT IS BAD ENOUGH, HOWEVER DEFINED, THAT KILLING THE PERSON IS OK.

Do you think severely brain damaged humans who do not have feelings should be killed?

[syriacus]

The staff took pride that she never developed a bedsore. With twice as many nursing aides per patient than the average nursing home, Woodside workers were able to turn her every two hours.

Michael supporters say his wonderful care of Terri is the reason she didn't develop a bedsore.

McAllister said she expects a new patient to take over Schiavo's room on Monday. It's in the back of the building and looks out over 9 pine-wooded acres.

Which can be seen if your spouse allows you to see it.

[Blzbba]

"For something like this, I'm not so sure. The nurses spend a lot more time with the patients than the doctors do."


Observing reflex behavior is one thing. Seeing and knowing that one's cerebral cortex is liquid and the effects that has is another.

I'm NOT in favor of what happened to her, I just still put more faith in the words of someone with more medical training and knowledge than a nurse...

[Diogenesis]

and these nurses worked for the Torturing Hospice and 'toed' the party line.

This gives EVEN MORE credibility to the Nurses' affidavits of Shiavo torture and abuse.

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[joshhiggins]

"It's been very hard watching a circus outside and be there with her while she was dying," said Susan Agines, a senior nursing supervisor. "I think what finally did it was when the juggler came."

What's with the juggler? Did Felos or CBS send one so they could say it's become a circus? If there really was a "Juggler" it seems suspicious to me.

[Oberon]

I'll take the doctor's word over that of a nursing supervisor...

I'm not at all certain that's a valid choice.

[sitetest]

Jane Burnham and Michael Schiavo talked every day. The day Terri Schiavo died, Burnham's mother was reeling under an infection and was not eating. As they left the hospice, Michael and his brother Brian stopped to say goodbye.

"With all that going on in his life, he knew I was having a rough day," Burnham said. "He came by and gave me a hug and said I was in his thoughts and prayers. He is the nicest man."

As long as he doesn't need to murder you to marry the mother of his illegitimate children.

[Halls]

I don't think anyone with brain damage should be killed! It is God's decision when life ends, not man!

[mtbopfuyn]

"But if she was uncomfortable, because the staff had been with her so long, we knew. If she moved, we knew what it meant. We knew when she should settle down with a different piece of music."

Very telling. Yet, we didn't see a throng of nurses rush out to tell the truth. For not speaking up, they are just as much murderers as hino. No, thanks, I wouldn't want a liar to care for my ailing family member.

[hellinahandcart]

"They said she is talking and asking for things," Buck said. "I had dinner with them Wednesday night and couldn't convince them that's not true. And I'm here every day."

I'll take the doctor's word over that of a nursing supervisor...

The nursing supervisor never said "she was talking and asking for things". Only that she could express discomfort and, because the nurses had been with her so long, be understood.

[Halls]

Exactly!