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THE STORY ENDS, THE STORY BEGINS
Washington Times ^ | 4/1/05 | Wes Pruden

Posted on 04/02/2005 9:53:30 AM PST by St.VincentPaul

Rarely has convenience been held so dear or life so cheap. Rarely has the nation been held in such thrall over tragedy. But we haven't seen anything yet. Before it ends, Terri Schiavo will seem the footnote to this saga of judges enthroned, Congress challenged, death embraced.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anotherterrithread; hysteriacontinued; newbie; newbieterrithread; schiavo
Only a rookie Freeper, but I intend to stay on this like white of rice- until someone is held accountable for Terri's killing.
1 posted on 04/02/2005 9:53:30 AM PST by St.VincentPaul
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To: St.VincentPaul

Oh no, we must "move on," to other things, until the inevitable day arrives when they want to starve crippled children to death, then when they win that battle we'll be told to "move on" once again. It's the skinny end of the wedge that goes in first.


2 posted on 04/02/2005 9:56:54 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I would like to ask all these people who say "I would have liked, personally, to see Jeb Bush rescue Terri, but we have a Constitution and the rule of law..."--Will you be content with that answer when an omnipotent judge orders YOU starved, injected, gassed, or shot, and Jeb Bush or some other governor stands around wringing his hands?


3 posted on 04/02/2005 10:02:30 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
I would like to ask all these people who say "I would have liked, personally, to see Jeb Bush rescue Terri, but we have a Constitution and the rule of law..."--Will you be content with that answer when an omnipotent judge orders YOU starved, injected, gassed, or shot, and Jeb Bush or some other governor stands around wringing his hands?

I believe Nuremberg told the world that the letter of the law has no force against the dictates of morality.

However, in this case the true "letter of the law" was the United States Constitution, not the statutes of the Florida legislature, nor the caprice of some two-bit local judge. Something should have been done, and I think it could have been done. I've observed before that Jeb Bush's inaction reminded me of nothing more than someone who wakes up in the middle of the night to hear someone rummaging around in the living room, then huddles up under the covers trying to convince himself that he's imagined the whole thing, or that it was nothing but the wind.

4 posted on 04/02/2005 10:08:30 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: St.VincentPaul

Another thing I find totally despicable is that the pope is allowed a feeding tube but that tube was denied Terri Schiavo, who was a practicing Catholic. Lord, how I find Michael Schiavo a totally heartless, unconscionable, base person. I know that the Bible states, "judge not that ye be not judged" but I'm having serious problems with that phrase at the present time.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 10:08:51 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: St.VincentPaul

Welcome to FR yesterday.


6 posted on 04/02/2005 10:08:59 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: St.VincentPaul
Welcome to FR. The article sums it up very succinctly. MS, his Death Enthralled Attorney, his autocratic judge and a legal system that was robotic like in its demand that all adhere to procedure over compassion and common sense are all so seriously conflicted in this matter it makes my head spin.

On the other side, the Schindlers, do not appear to have had anything at stake other than the right to assume responsibility for the care of their daughter and sibling. Admittedly, others have come forward to attempt to hijack this sad situation for their political agendas but they were enabled in this activity by the outrageous behavior of the MS side of the dispute.

I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions as to the motivations of each but I can't avoid the feeling that an injustice has been perpetrated under the color of a rigid, arrogant judiciary.

7 posted on 04/02/2005 10:14:21 AM PST by drt1
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To: Arthur McGowan

The way I understand this.....

The feeding tube was not originally deemed extraordinary means to keeping a person alive...like a ventilator. Mikey wanted the tube removed from Terri when he decided he wanted her gone. At that time, it was illegal. So, Felos and his buddies from hospice lobbied the legislature and got a law passed to include the tube. Did Jeb sign this law?

Also, heresay used to be disallowed in these cases. Again, the legislature passed a law to make it permissable. Did Jeb sign that law??


8 posted on 04/02/2005 10:16:34 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit
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Also, heresay used to be disallowed in these cases. Again, the legislature passed a law to make it permissible. Did Jeb sign that law??" Heresay has been the standard for all convictions in the entire US. It is totally wrong, but you have to understand what we have here. The police, the lawyers, the judges, and all local politicians ( who most are lawyers). What do you expect from the "club".
9 posted on 04/02/2005 10:53:41 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: St.VincentPaul

I hope that Terri will somehow receive, posthumously, the justice that she was denied by the courts while in this life.


10 posted on 04/02/2005 11:12:39 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: Jrabbit

My understanding is they did not lobby, but advised the legislature through the End of Life Panel. Several of the Board of Suncoast Hospices (if not Felos, then his friends), a wife of a Judge friend of Greer and others with a Euthenasia agenda convinced the misguided idiots in the legislatue to change definitions or what was allowable.

It was passed in 1999, just before Felos arranged for Terri to be admitted to the hospice. A lot of people have not realized what being in a hospice means. Hospices are waiting areas for terminal patients where nothing is administered except nourishment and pain meds. Terry was there over 5 years without any treatment
of any kind, including for a chronic urinary tract infection according to dr. reports i read on line.

This was a mutually benefitting situation for Michael and Felos, and I am still on boiling over Felos' self-serving comments "This death was for Terri."--no it wasn't. This death was for michael and Euthenasia. Felos on"the beauty and peace" of Terri when the poor woman was bleeding from nose and eyes and running a high
fever from dehydration--cruel and evil. Oh, my God, have mercy on us if we do nothing about this.

vaudine


11 posted on 04/02/2005 11:22:05 AM PST by vaudine
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To: anniegetyourgun

Anniegun,

Thanks, today! :)


12 posted on 04/02/2005 11:40:47 AM PST by St.VincentPaul
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; lilylangtree; drt1; IWONDR

"For now, may those who fought for life be honored. May Jesse Jackson be honored, and all who fought the fight in Florida. From David McCullough's "John Adams": "Adams had, however, arrived at certain bedrock conclusions before [his] end came. He believed, with all his heart, as he had written to Jefferson, that no effort in favor of virtue was lost." Onward. " Peggy Noonan


13 posted on 04/02/2005 11:48:30 AM PST by St.VincentPaul
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To: Jrabbit

Yes. He signed both into law.

I keep asking people, "How hard is he going to fight something that HE SIGNED INTO LAW?"

It is not sick.

What he did was EVIL. And he's lied four-ways-to-Sunday about not being able to protect Terri.

HE DID NOT WANT HER PROTECTED.


14 posted on 04/02/2005 11:56:03 AM PST by freecopper01
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To: freecopper01

Just asking, so please don't flame me:

Was any of Jeb's kids ever in trouble with the law in Florida?


15 posted on 04/02/2005 11:58:03 AM PST by freecopper01
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To: Jrabbit

It's all in Statute 765. Signed in 1999 by Jeb Bush. Another reason he was afraid to save Terri's life. His signature on that statute was what legalized everything that Michael Schiavo and George Felos did to Terri.


16 posted on 04/02/2005 1:17:57 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: St.VincentPaul

Terri Schiavo's death was uniquely horrible because of the way an innocent person was killed on a judge's orders to humor an adulterous spouse, but let us not forget the 80 people killed at Waco in April 1993 by the U.S. government for the Clintons' convenience, because the standoff was making Bill look bad.


17 posted on 04/02/2005 1:51:07 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: St.VincentPaul; All
In Honor of Terri Schiavo

Please let it load -- it's 11 mb.

Have headphones or sound on.

special thanks to lafroste for generous technical and web assistance.

18 posted on 04/02/2005 2:51:08 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (God rest Terri Schiavo. God save the rest of us.)
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