Posted on 04/02/2005 12:00:20 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Somber ping.
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death.
Amen.
I'm afraid to go to bed.
I just woke up. Someone called me a bit errrmmm...under the weather and interrupted my sleep. I didn't go to sleep last night at all watching the tv.
MSNBC just mentioned a 4:30 et briefing from the Vatican. No word on content, but they did use the word 'briefing.'
Smiling.
Someone called and woke you?
STOP IT! LET IT GO! For heaven's sake, show a little respect for the life & death of this great man.
Fri Apr 1, 3:14 PM ET A Swiss guard closes the Bronze Door for the night, at the Vatican, Friday, April 1, 2005. This door is traditionally closed every night as seen here, and over the centuries it is also closed when a pope dies and is kept shut until a new pontiff is elected. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)
Bronze Door Reopens, Signaling Pope Alive
By WILLIAM J. KOLE, Associated Press Writer
VATICAN CITY - The bronze door off St. Peter's Square reopened early Saturday to allow the faithful to morning Mass — one sign among many that Pope John Paul II was still alive.
Over the centuries, the most traditional and telling signal that a pope has died has been the tolling of the Vatican's bells, which prompts churches across Rome to join in. Other signs include the closing of the massive bronze portal beneath a portico off St. Peter's and drawn shutters in the pontiff's apartment.
The modern use of Bronze Door is spotty. In 1978, when two popes died in rapid succession, the tradition was ignored. Under normal circumstances, the Bronze Door is closed every night at around 8 p.m. and reopened in the morning.
And papal observers say it's not clear whether the shutting of the door even in daytime would precede or follow an official announcement. The door remains closed until a new pontiff is elected.
Some also are watched the shutters of the two windows at the side of Pope John Paul II's third-floor apartment overlooking St. Peter's Square. Some say the closing of the shutters can be the first tangible sign of a death.
Tradition dictates that the pope's vicar for Rome, Cardinal Camillo Ruini, would make a formal announcement to Romans. The Vatican almost certainly would have made an earlier announcement to the media, either via Vatican Radio, which then plays somber music, or the pope's spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Valls, meaning the world would know by the time Ruini read out the news.
The formal Vatican tradition goes like this:
When a pope dies, the prefect of the papal household, currently American Archbishop James Harvey, tells the camerlengo, or chamberlain, who is the most important official running the Holy See in the period between the death of a pope and the election of a new one.
The camerlengo, now Cardinal Eduardo Martinez Somalo of Spain, must then verify the death — a process which in the past was done by striking the forehead of the pope with a silver hammer. The camerlengo then calls out to the pope three times by his baptismal name -- Karol, Karol, Karol. When the pope does not respond, the camerlengo then announces "the pope is dead."
The camerlengo then uses the silver hammer to smash the pope's ring, the "ring of the fisherman," to preclude forgery of official documents.
He then tells the vicar of Rome, who then informs the people of the city.
The prefect of the papal household then tells the dean of the College of Cardinals, now Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who then formally informs the rest of the college, ambassadors accredited to the Holy See, and heads of state around the world.
"Briefing" -- I like that word.
Beats "announcement."
I hope if you are sick that your health becomes great again.
As far as all this happening with the Pope, well this is more than equal to the passing of Ronald Reagan. After the Pope is gone, only Thatcher is left from the three that really changed this world.
I made a mistake and already was pulled, Sorry. It will not happen again.
You need your rest, he could take another 24 hours, the human body even in these late stages of death can be rather amazing.
I'm not sick but the person that just called me is going to have one heck of a hangover.
I'm sorry. I hit the post button just as you were pulling the comment. Thank you, by the way. I should have known that you would not allow that to stand.
They're still waiting for the Cardinals to arrive.
there's a RELIGION mod??
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