(Fr.)Frank Pavone Discusses the Last Moments of Terri Schiavo

Fox News ^ | 3/31/05

[bjs1779]

What kind of trash refuses a brother the opportunuty to be at the bedside of his sister at death? MS is just a big POS."

Scott Schiavo talks on the telephone, Thursday, March 31, 2005, at his home in Levittown Pa., follow the death of his sister-in-law. Terri Schiavo. Terri Schiavo's ashes will be buried in an undisclosed location near Philadelphia so that Terri's immediate family doesn't attend and turn the burial into a media spectacle, a member of the Schiavo family said Thursday. ``If Mike knew they would come in peace, he would have no problem with it,'' Scott Schiavo, Michael Schiavo's brother, said during an interview at his home. (AP Photo/Joseph Kaczmarek

[lugsoul]

"What kind of trash refuses a brother the opportunuty to be at the bedside of his sister at death?"

Has anyone stopped to consider that, UNLESS their position is that Michael should have allowed them all to be in the room 24/7, any time they were not in the room [even if they just went to the restroom] could have been the moment of her death?

Or are you contending that someone actually knew when the moment of death would be?

[Fudd Fan]

"rumored here that her husband did not allow Terri's parents to be in the room when she died. Turns out that was not true."

No, he DID emphatically say that her brother and sister could not. Good grief.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Apparently, that's exactly what happened here, Father, with all due respect.

Funny, Michael Schiavo didn't remember Terris' wishes until after he received the settlement check, the amount of which was based on a calculated lifespan of 50 years of medical care for Terri, following the medical malpractice trial. In fact, he testified during said trial that he did not know what Terri would have wanted were she in said condition.

[syriacus]

It had been rumored here that her husband did not allow Terri's parents to be in the room when she died. Turns out that was not true.

Felos has changed his tune "in public" several times, publicly.

He's said the schedule of visitors to Terri was drawn up by Greer so Michael couldn't do anything about it.

At yesterday's press conference, Felos said Bobby had been in an altercation with a cop, thus the cop would have had to accompany Bobby into Terri's room. Michael decided that having a cop in Terri's room would "disturb" her death (even though Felos has insisted over and over that Terri is totally unaware) So Bobby was not allowed in.

Today, on FoxNews Felos said that Bobby said (paraphrased) "Let us be in the room with you and Terri. You can have a cop in there to make sure things go smoothly."

Felos, manipulator of the audience that he is, even tried to make it look like the Schindlers did not care about being with Terri. He mentioned that Terri's mother hadn't visitedt Terri since Easter. (DuH. She was getting physically ill) Even if Terri's parents weren't around, Bobby and Suzanne were nearby.

[BizzeeMom]

Yes and no. What Father Pavone is referring to when he says a healthcare proxy, would be a written, properly witnessed legal document, giving the decision-making rights/duties to a certain named person.

Terri didn't have one, and we don't know who she would have chosen if she did. It wouldn't necessarily have been her husband. We don't know.

[LibertyJihad]

" Or are you contending that someone actually knew when the moment of death would be?"

Certainly ---- Before it was known that she died, the Schindler family spokesperson spoke to the press saying that they had been forced from the room and that they wanted to stay there knowing that she would die shortly. They had been told that death was imminent ---- within hours.

But of course, it would have been upsetting to Terri if they were allowed to stay ---- oh wait, she was a vegetable and had no clue what was going on. Which is it?

[frogjerk]

What's the story behind your tagline? I'd like to check that out.

[syriacus]

Q: How do you correctly pronounce the nickname for Enthusiastic Euthanasiasts?

A: You hold your nose and say "EWWWWWW"

[ErnBatavia]

Father Pavone mustv'e done something right, because Felos continually ranted against him during his many television interviews yesterday.

[maine-iac7]

MS is just a big POS.

That would make a good bumper sticker ;o)

[lugsoul]

I really hate to say this about a man of the cloth - but given some of the things that have passed his lips this week, I don't believe a word Fr. Pavone says.

[Fudd Fan]

"The Schindler's should keep him as a spokesman for awhile."

Fr. Pavone is a staunch defender of life. If you heard Felos in his tirade yesterday, he had vicious things to say about the Father specifically. Guess Father Pavone hit some nerves. Good, he needs to keep it up!

[Taggart_D]

I noticed this morning the Today show only had Michael Schiavo's attorney on. He said Terri's brother had to be restrained by police. There was no rebuttal guest from the Schindler family

The objective of the Today show (as well as CNN) is damage control to Michael Schiavo's public image. If you want Fair and Balanced coverage, change the channel.

[LYSandra]

Someone posed a great question-if this was Terri's wishes then why was a tube inserted in the first place? With each day I hate Michael and now his obnoxious brother even more!

[LibertyJihad]

>>I really hate to say this about a man of the cloth - but given some of the things that have passed his lips this week, I don't believe a word Fr. Pavone says.<<

I didn't say Fr. Pavone was the one who made the request for her family to be with her minutes prior to her death. It was, in fact, Brother Paul O'Donnell. You are not disputing that he spoke with the press minutes before Terri's death asking that the family be allowed in the room are you? If so, then you are the one who lacks credibility.

[BizzeeMom]

"Joe Ford, a Harvard undergraduate with severe cerebral palsy: "Like many others with disabilities, I believe that the American public, to one degree or another, holds that disabled people are better off dead

****

This guy is exactly right-on. This is the sad truth of it all.

I have had the unfortunate experience of being in a family situation where this was actually said, one brother to another. One was quadriplegic with end-stage MS, and just happy to be alive....a sweet loving man who was being cared for at home by his mother and my husband, as was his wish.

One of the other brothers said to him one day, "I'd rather be dead, than live the way you do."

He did die, about a year later, at the age of 42. Why do people begrudge the disabled their existence?

[syriacus]

What's the story behind your tagline? I'd like to check that out.

That's about Felos's press conference, yesterday, after Terri died.

Some of us made comments about Felos at Felos Slams Fr. Pavone of Priests for Life (Accusing Him of Speaking "Venom")
I made a comment on Felos's tongue flicking at post #9

[68 grunt]

... I don't believe a word Fr. Pavone says.

And it seems our credibility is tied to his.

[sockmonkey]

Or are you contending that someone actually knew when the moment of death would be?

Not the exact moment but within a timeframe of fifteen minutes I would guess. It's not like there aren't indicators... heart rate drops, very shallow respirations..pulse dropping to nothing, then coming back for a bit, eyes starting to cloud over..sometimes little gurgling noises, Blood pressure drops so low you can't believe they are even still alive.

Unless someone dies because a semi splats them in the middle of the road, or they have a massive coronary, there certainly are indicators.