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Poll Shift on Terri's Death
NewsMax ^ | 4/1/05 | Limbacher

Posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:27 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Public opinion may be shifting on the decision to disconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube and starve her to death, according to a new Fox Opinion Dynamics survey - with a significant percentage of Americans now saying it was "murder."

When asked about the "decision to remove" Schiavo's feeding tube, 38 percent of Americans told Opinion Dynamics that they disagreed with the decision, with 42 percent backing the move.

A full 20 percent said they were unsure.

A widely circulated ABC News poll last week asked if it was right to pull Schiavo's feeding tube, noting that she's been "on life support for 15 years" with a condition that is "irreversible."

Phrasing the question like that, 63 percent backed the decision to remove her tube, with 28 opposed.

In perhaps the most startling finding on the survey, fifty percent of African Americans told Opinion Dynamics that removing Schiavo's feeding tube was "an act of murder."

Thirty-nine percent of Republicans agreed. Even among Americans under 30, more than a third of the population [35 percent] believe that Schiavo was murdered.

Opinion Dynamics surveyed 900 registered voters on March 29-30, the day before Schiavo died.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allterriallthetime; giveitarest; murder; notthisagain; polls; schiavo; schiavorepublic; shesaliveinchristjim; shesdeadjim; terri
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To: Sal; lady lawyer; ClancyJ

// If it's true that he now works as a nurse for the Sheriff's jail... //

Hi, it was confirmed by people who are there in Pinellas County that Michael works as an RN for the PC jail -- hired by Everett Rice in his last 4 days as sheriff, before stepping into his new job in Tally. It wasn't until mid-Jan or so that this became known, and that apparently thanks to the work of the http://www.theempirejournal.com/ -- the St. Pete Times didn't do the story until after it was in TEJ.

Yeah, knowing michael worked at the jail -- not only that he might physically be there, but showing once again which way the wind blows there -- definately affected decisions to get arrested at hospice.


101 posted on 04/01/2005 9:40:50 AM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: ClancyJ; lady lawyer

but it's even better than that -- he said in the malpractice suit that he wanted to be a nurse so he could take care of his beloved wife Terri. He declared his undying love for Terri, and his intention to care for her forever.

links to that testimony I believe are still up at the terrisfight.org website -- as well as reposted periodically here on fr. we need some cataloguing system to keep it all straight and readily available, like alamo girl did the downside legacy. that's one thing I was trying to work on.


102 posted on 04/01/2005 9:48:38 AM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: Phocion

Its only obfuscation if you can't read. The story is clear that certain subgroups believed it was murder, particularly blacks.


103 posted on 04/01/2005 10:00:14 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: MSSC6644

Here is our idea:

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104 posted on 04/01/2005 10:09:06 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: grassboots.org
Late influence from Jesse Jackson, perhaps? Of course, the "Rev." has zero credibility here at FR, but there are some dimwits who believe that he has at least one ethical bone in his body.

The convenient thing is, his too-little, too-late, appearance at the end keeps the left from labeling ALL of the people who wanted to save Terri as "right wing nutjobs". Maybe it has caused some people to think.

The autopsy results might be another thing that makes folks pull their heads out of their arses.

105 posted on 04/01/2005 10:09:21 AM PST by hunter112 (Total victory, both in the USA and the Middle East!)
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To: Madeleine Ward

If you thought the audio was good on that one, check out this video.


http://web.tampabay.rr.com/ccb/videos/Terri_Big_Eyes.rm


106 posted on 04/01/2005 10:11:43 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: Madeleine Ward

Here's another good one:

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/ccb/videos/hows_that_cold.rm

And this one is the best - I don't understand Sean Hannity not using these ones?

http://gordonwatts.com/ConversationWithTerri.wmv


107 posted on 04/01/2005 10:21:08 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: hunter112

Actually the black House Caucus supported Terri in the Congressional legislation before Jackson got involved. Perhaps because of the decrease in the keeping of marriage vows among blacks, the traditional unity of the black Parent-Child relationship is better understood and honored.


108 posted on 04/01/2005 10:24:26 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
"When one finds out that MS waited 7 YEARS to say that his wife wanted to die..."

And if that were true, IF Terri "never wanted to live that way", why did Michael have the feeding tube inserted in the 1st place????

109 posted on 04/01/2005 10:26:21 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: cyn
Thank you, cyn. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to get arrested into a facility where somebody might tell me I don't look too good--better go see the nurse and he turns out be MS. What if he shot me up with insulin like the nurse from hospice suspected him of doing to his wife. Especially since the police ignored her warnings when she went to them...

We have a lot of retired LEOs here at FR. Maybe a couple of them will look into any unusual deaths or unexplained illnesses at the jail that have the same symptoms as insulin shock.

110 posted on 04/01/2005 10:28:26 AM PST by Sal
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To: grassboots.org

How do you post a link to the videos?? I want to post one that I think EVERYONE should see - the one with Terri and her dad talking to her about her lazy eye.


111 posted on 04/01/2005 10:32:12 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: jackibutterfly

That is the second video in post #107.

(just copy the URL into the box)


112 posted on 04/01/2005 10:36:54 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: lafroste

Every pollster knows that the result of polling can be tweaked by predictable percentage points, up or down, depending on the wording of the question. That's why polls can be calibrated to produce the desired outcome.

Compare:

"Say a person is in a permanent vegetative state with no hope of recovery: is it permissible for her next-of-kin to take her off artificial life support and allow her to die with dignity?"

Or:

"Say a person with a brain injury has family which is eager to care for her and provide therapy so she can maximize her potential: should this disabled person's estranged husband be allowed to cut off her food and water in order to deliberately cause her death by starvation and dehydration?"

I guarantee the difference in polling response would be in the double digits.

The interesting thing here is that, even though the polling question was grossly biased AGAINST Terri, substantial numbers of people still said she should be fed.

Yes, we have our work cut out for us. But there's hope.

Mrs. Don-o


113 posted on 04/01/2005 12:02:11 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Some say Terri Schiavo should be allowed to die, but that certainly is not the issue. A judge has ordered that under threat of imprisonment no one may feed her and no one may give her water. By court order Terri Schiavo is to be starved and dehydrated to death.
114 posted on 04/01/2005 12:06:29 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

With Michael's most recent behavior (not allowing the family to be in the room when she died, not allowing her parents to give her a Catholic funeral, hiding the location of where the ashes are to be buried even from her parents), I believe he is going to lose many supporters. I've witnessed this occurring already.


115 posted on 04/01/2005 12:08:47 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: grassboots.org

Thank YOU! I didn't look to see that one - I just assumed it was another one.


116 posted on 04/01/2005 12:12:03 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: MEGoody

I wish they'd take a poll asking people if they knew that the Doctor who pulled Terri's feeding tube and was the Doctor who diagnosed her as being "in a vegatative state" was a member of the "Hemlock Society". THen, in a follow up question ask them would they want a "Dr. Kevorkian type" treating their family member? The more THIS information gets out, the more Michael Schiavo's character will begin to surface and hopefully, the insurance companies will do a massive investigation (it benefits them NOT to have to pay if it was murder). Does anyone know who the insurance company is (please don't tell me its the girlfriends company)


117 posted on 04/01/2005 12:14:23 PM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I guess watching a person be starved to death can change minds.


118 posted on 04/01/2005 12:20:30 PM PST by rwa265
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I haven't participated much on the Schiavo threads; mostly lurked. This may have been discussed before, so please forgive me if it has.

My local paper today had a about 9 people's responses to the the Schiavo case. The overwhelming theme was that "starving to death" was terrible and most mildly disagreed with what ultimately decided her fate.

A concern came to my mind though. Will people now be more easily persuaded in favor of "mercy killing" for the so-called hopeless because the alternative will conjure up memories of Terri's unpleasant death? I find that possibility very frightening. It seems the culture of death is looking for every opportunity to slip further into the abyss.

Dear Lord, forgive us.

119 posted on 04/01/2005 12:20:50 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

You have rightly sensed the next step in the battle, already put forth by Jack the Dripper Kevorkian and his attorney, Jeffrey Fieger.


120 posted on 04/01/2005 12:28:57 PM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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