Posted on 04/01/2005 7:34:43 AM PST by johnny7
San Diego -- NOW THAT Terri Schiavo has died, many of the questions the country has been wrestling with are moot.
It no longer matters which doctor had the right diagnosis, or whether Schiavo's husband or parents had her best interests at heart, or whether the federal government should have been involved, or whether this was a case that was best handled by doctors and family members as opposed to politicians and judges.
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Her parents were not allowed to be there at the end, nor were her siblings. Yet his lawyer was. How does that work? His lawyer literally had the siblings thrown out of the hospice room, for goodness sake!
As for turning the cheek, going to court so that he could have her cremated and bury the body where they can't ever visit her isn't exactly the Christian thing to do, to name one example. When did he ever turn the other cheek?
Even those who felt themselves on Michael Schiavo's side of the heartbreaking Terri Schiavo story must be repulsed by his stony refusal to let her family be at her bedside when she passed from this life. Such unfathomably meanspirited pettiness reminds us that the Schiavo affair, at the heart of it, was a family matter - a quarrel not between right and left, but between in-laws who despise each other.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/story/295210p-252746c.html
No it is not contempt of Congress unless a specific vote is taken on contempt which it will not dare do unless it is even dumber than I believe it is.
Congress can command me to flap my arms and fly there but that ain't going to happen either. I doubt that it has any authority to command one to make a third party available unless the party of the second part is hiding the third party.
Congress is guilty of grandstanding and should be ashamed of itself for getting involved in this circus.
Your taking technicalities and spineless politicians. I'm talking about the fact that Greer did violate an order of Congress which is undeniable.
It is still false that he prevented the parents from being at the bedside. They were there earlier and had left. The brother was there as well.
It is not as though anything happened that shouldn't have been missed. It wasn't as though Terri was going to say something.
The only accuracy in this editorial is that this was a conflict within a family not a matter of right and left or right and wrong for that matter.
No I am talking about actual actionable Contempt of Congress which has legal ramifications that is not a "technicality."
I am not even sure that Congress did anything except issue subpoenas which were impossible to fulfill. Had Greer tried to move her and she had died the complaint would be the he "murdered" her.
The brother was asked to leave which was reasonable considering he was part of the cabal trying to make life for Michael as miserable as possible. Had he been there I don't doubt he would be spreading more lies about him so I support his removal.
He turned the other cheek for one by turning over the decision about removing the feeding tube to the court, an objective third party. This was done as a concession to the parents who were already on their jihad against him. Of course, it is not discussed by those joining the Lynch mob to hang him and the parents never paused in their calling him a "murderer" because of this good faith gesture.
If I were he I would not have had ANY THING to do with these people at all who have done little except drag this out, vilify him, and try and destroy his life. Nor does he have to go to court to do anything with the body so that is just another falsehood. Once the autopsy is completed he has complete authority over the funeral rites.
Another lie is that he would not allow an autopsy. Those spreading that lie to defame him are ignorant of the fact that the Medical Examiner makes the decision as to have an autopsy or not and no one can tell him not to have an autopsy. But truth means nothing to these people.
Out of curiousity, what direct government intervention? The only thing from the Federal government was Congress requesting a Federal court to review the case and that court refusing. From the State government, Judge Greer was the principle direct government intervention. Did they believe this should not have gone to court at all? Or maybe the governor of Florida not doing anything was considered 'direct government intervention'. Or, perhaps the Florida legislature failing to pass 'Terri's Law' regarding this case was 'intervention'. What's bizarre is that 'direct government intervention' merely comes down to governent failing to intervene. I wonder if what's meant by the people you know saying this is more directed at Republicans and that they would have been perfectly satisfied if it were Democrats.
Also on the pro-killing side are conservatives still pissed off about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 who are desperately hoping to be elected "most consistent constitutionalist" by their local Federalist Society chapters.
-Ann Coulter
Where does it say due process is only for criminal cases or even that differing standards of due process are allowed? If differing standards are allowed, why should there be any due process at all? We could just flip a coin to make the decision.
Are you claiming this was done and by whom? Certainly not the Federal legislature, who only asked for a Federal court to review the case anew. Do you mean the State government? I can also see how this may be some exaggeration on your part, though.
This whole fiasco left the impression that the GOP is controlled by the Religious Right. And that's not a good thing.
The disabled (a surprisingly sizable voting bloc) have move from the democrat column, now strongly voting Republican. James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal indicates that this occured early on in the Schiavo case, enough to tip Ohio to Bush in the last election.
Since judges seem to put so much stock in the opinion of other nations, perhaps this will lead to some more reasonable court decisions.
Ah. A realist. :)
IMO this fiasco will damage the GOP far more than most think.
How so? If they go by the world for their results in decisions, then we would have no abortion since only a few countries have legalized it.
Absolutely.
Wait just a minute here. All along, Michael Schiavo has claimed that he's simply acting in Terri's behalf and was merely following out her own wishes. Do you really think she would choose having not one but two lawyers at her deathbed over her brother and sister? Or have her own parents barred from her gravesite?
Incidentally, what's the falsehood part about the court? He did initiate court action over what to do over his body, didn't he?
Supporters of Michael Schiavo can't have it both ways -- say that he's just doing what Terri would have wanted, then agree with his own petty vendetta against her family. It defies credulity to believe that she would agree with these other actions.
Yes, the parents technically weren't barred from being at her bedside, because they hadn't arrived until after she was dead. But there's no reason to think that Schiavo would have let them stay there during that moment, when he threw her brother out.
It is not as though anything happened that shouldn't have been missed. It wasn't as though Terri was going to say something.
Then why was Michael there to "cradle her in his arms" for the moment of death? He and his lawyer certainly made a big deal about stuffed animals, and soft music, and flowers in the room, didn't they? Why even bother with that stuff -- after all, they believe she was in a PVS, so using their logic, she wouldn't have noticed the items in the first place!
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