Posted on 04/01/2005 7:34:43 AM PST by johnny7
San Diego -- NOW THAT Terri Schiavo has died, many of the questions the country has been wrestling with are moot.
It no longer matters which doctor had the right diagnosis, or whether Schiavo's husband or parents had her best interests at heart, or whether the federal government should have been involved, or whether this was a case that was best handled by doctors and family members as opposed to politicians and judges.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
"Some" is the operative word, its no place for normal people... HA!
And so who ends up suffering? The entire world will suffer.
Watch and see how this ends up affecting our nation's foreign policy.
That Congress would butt-in in any way is an affront to federalism. They had the constitutional power to do what they did, but that doesn't mean they should have used it. It was just too good an opportunity for photo ops and pandering for reelection.
"It just wasn't well-founded conservatively, for those who believe in states' rights, according to the constitutional principle of federalism."
I believe in Federalism. Federalism includes the protection of due process rights for all citizens, guaranteed by the *U.S. Constitution*, enforced by a Federal judiciary that is regulated under Article III by Congress.
If you are not in favor of abolishing the FDA, USDA, HIPPA regulations, Medicare, Medicaid, but against this action to allow further review of Terri Schiavo's case - your issue isnt Federalism.
Folks that use the term "states rights" simply cloud the issues facing America today. Only individuals have rights and the duty of the federal government is to be the final protector of those inalienable rights such as life, liberty and property.
States certainly have powers but those powers are only the powers given to them by the citizens of those states, not by the aristocracy in robes.
Anybody who argues against Congressional oversight and judicial review for state ordered killings is not a conservative. And they should be required to answer the question I posed you you above.
To wit: If your state orders your death as an innocent citizen, will you renounce the federal government for reviewing that order?
Quit confusing him with facts...
Liberals who have egged on socialized medicine and the nationalization of medical issues (HMO regulations), education , welfare, even crime (drug laws, civil rights-type laws) now have the gall to raise 'separation of powers' and Federalism isues, concepts they clearly dont believe in, and insert it into a case where it is not an issue. If the Federal Govt cant review cases where 14th amendment due process rights may be violated, then there *is* no Federal Govt, there are just Judges run amok ....
Issues of Federalism are a smokescreen, a red herring. This is a drop in the ocean of Federal involvement and regulation and more justified Constitutionally and legally than 99% of what the Federal Govt does today.
"Quick - Does the Federal Government have the right to review state laws that force sterilization of retarded people?"
This is a non-answer: "I don't remember any challenge to any law in this case used to end Terri's life."
Go ahead - answer my question. I dare ya.
I doubt it. Besides, now that Terry is dead, the media is finally getting around to criticizing Michael Schiavo's behavior. Him refusing to let Terri's parents and siblings stay in the room when she died, and him not letting the parents know where her ashes will be buried is not going over well.
Where this hurt America internationally is that now China, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea can point to Terri as a human rights murder by starvation. We are going to have a tough time trying to say they are bad when our courts caused THIS.
IMO, this benefits the liberals and pagans who want moral relativism in everything.
The GOD, False gods, and man are all equal in moral relevancy and that's what was trying to be furthered here IMO.
We need to become bulldogs on the back of the Congress and Senate to define things better and to further limit courts and judges.
Greer is in Contempt of Congress and I wonder if the politicians have the family jewels to slap it on him officially?
Greer is not in contempt of Congress.
He was ordered to brink Terri before Congress 3/28 and ignored Congresses orders completely.
He is in Contempt of Congress, but the Congress needs to not run away like little school girls in this and make it official.
brink = bring
Terri's parents were there and left shortly before the end.
I can't blame the guy for not wanting any from that bunch around though after the hell they have put him through. He turned the cheek so many times he looked like a carosel.
First of all Congress has to vote on a contempt charge and it hasn't and won't. It probably wasn't even legal in the first place.
Secondly it was an idiotic command. But that is about the only indignity which has NOT been visited on poor Terri dragging her to Washington for the Ghouls to exhibit.
Despite what you thought of the command, which was an effort to get Terri fed, Greer ignored it.
That is called Contempt of Congress.
I agree, that is Congress can have this go away in the dark of night, they would love to do so.
Though Greer in reality is in Contempt of Congress, I do think we lack the leadership to take him to task for it.
How could they be hurt. Everyone already knows that they are all a bunch of publicity seeking, grandstanding scum bags that only care about maintaining and furthering their political careers (eg keeping a place at the public trough while they can also continue receiving all the public and private perks that they do). None of them have any conscience, morals, character or principals and will do nothing at all unless they have the polls for cover and it enriches them some how while not jeopardizing their elitist position. Conversely, they will do anything at all as long as the polls seem to be behind them. It's a shame what the political system in this country has become (because we have allowed it). They are all the same...GOP, DEMS, socialists, nazis...doesn't matter. Show me one that is worth a sh*t
"Jeb could have ordered the FL state police swat team in, and ordered the county people to stand down, and taken her under guard to a place she where would be cared for and not murdered. The fact that he wimped out ..."
What you are talking about it not legal action, but extra-legal action. deciding not to exceed the powers that the people entrusted you with is not 'wimping out', IMHO.
"No one is compelled to obey an immoral order."
It would be better to take it up with all those - police, hospice, various judges - who followed it, rather than those who didnt.
It sure did, IMNSHO.
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