Posted on 04/01/2005 2:38:08 AM PST by beyond the sea
Hey there is so much BS in this whole thing I don't believe anybody knows the whole truth!!!!
When you write, "they", who do you mean?
I don't know about BS, but there have been conflicting reports.
"Funeral homes aren't places where people die, but I'll answer your question anyway. I haven't heard rap music but I have heard lots of loud laughter at wakes. And how about those New Orleans funerals with the trumpets and all?"
Would they play jazz music in a hospital ICU? Somehow I don't think so, but I know it's difficult to think outside the box sometimes.
Sorry it took so long to get back to you...I was working and then came down with this awful flu. It has been reported by more than one source that one of the reasons Shiavo wants Terri dead is his 'fiancee' is catholic and wants to be married in the catholic church. He needed Terri to die in order for this to happen.
"Put up a direct quote from them saying that she was PVS before you continue any further."
It's in the trial transcripts as noted by the GAL Wolfson.
"Throughout this painful and difficult trial, the family acknowledged that Theresa was in a diagnosed persistent vegetative state."
http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/wolfson%27s%20report.pdf
That quote is thoroughly loaded - it isn't a direct quote of a family member saying, "Terri is PVS". It's secondhand. Furthermore, it could be that they are mere acknowledging some doctors diagnosed her as PVS.
In short, that's loaded with sophistry, dishonesty and mendacity.
In addition, not all doctors agree with the diagnosis. And as such if the family believed the PVS diagnosis, they certainly had legitimate cause to change their minds.
Finally, there is absolutely no justification whatsoever for starving to death the disabled. And nothing you say will ever make it right.
Ivan
What Ivan said. Ditto.
"That quote is thoroughly loaded - it isn't a direct quote of a family member saying,"
It isn't in the trial testimony by the parents? He's making it up?
Yes, some doctors disagreed with the PVS diognosis and their testimony is suspect. Dr. Hammesfahr doesn't get much respect in the medical community. He's claims of a Nobel nominee is shaky if not outright fraud. In court testimony he couldn't back up his claims of success.
"And nothing you say will ever make it right."
Tis not my intent to make it one way or the other.
Sophistry. I said it was loaded. And I pointed out interpretations which made it so.
Yes, some doctors disagreed with the PVS diognosis and their testimony is suspect. Dr. Hammesfahr doesn't get much respect in the medical community. He's claims of a Nobel nominee is shaky if not outright fraud. In court testimony he couldn't back up his claims of success.
It's not just him. Nice try to tar all those who said it's a suspect diagnosis with the same brush.
Tis not my intent to make it one way or the other.
Rubbish. You're pro-death and scrambling for a justification to have starved Terri to death. What part of "it's immoral" don't you understand.
Ivan
"Rubbish. You're pro-death and scrambling for a justification to have starved Terri to death. What part of "it's immoral" don't you understand."
Anything else you know about me that I'm unaware of? LOL
Yes, when justice is not done, blood will demand blood.
I think Terri's family will at least be happy that they will have the ex-husband out of their lives forever now.
That is the only good thing that came out of this for them.
He would make 3rd world dickey-tators proud.
Yeah, it's almost laughable to be more concerned about putting panties on a terrorist prisoner's head than about starving Terri. We call good evil and evil good. More to come!
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