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When DUmmies Attack (AFN Soldier Under E-Mail Assault from DU)
Vanity ^ | 01 April 2005 | TxRadioguy

Posted on 03/31/2005 8:09:51 PM PST by txradioguy

It started out when I saw this "Letter To The Editor" in the March 22nd Stars and Stripes:

AFN needs diverse opinions

Rush Limbaugh is not of interest to all. Equal time needs to go to more moderate interests, and, failing that, to progressive ones.

I hereby launch a campaign to hear Air America once, at prime time, for every time Rush is on the air. Please let your local American Forces Network radio station know that you need to hear more than a paid announcement from the party line.

Any other point of view is absolutely necessary. Rush’s sources and motivations are highly suspect, and it would be interesting to look on White House pay records for what amounts go to the “Excellence in Broadcasting Network.”

I would also be curious as to what influence leads this broadcast to be on AFN on prime time four to five days a week, with political balance only from my fellow Texan Jim Hightower, for five minutes, buried somewhere in the early morning.

If we don’t demand freedom of choice, we won’t get it.

Emily Dolan Gordon Grafenwöhr, Germany

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And I replied with this in the March 29th Stars & Stripes:

Air America not the answer

This is in response to the letter writer who demanded “equal time” for Air America since American Forces Network broadcasts Rush Limbaugh (“AFN needs diverse opinions,” March 21). It sounds eerily like a form letter being circulated at the Liberal Web site DemocraticUnderground.com, so the editors of Stars and Stripes should be warned that more letters like this may be on the way. Let me also remind the letter writer, Emily Dolan Gordon, that the Federal Communications Commission’s “fairness doctrine” went away more than 20 years ago, so AFN, if it chooses, does not have to give “equal time” to the hate speech on Air America just to make it “fair.”

Second, why would anyone want to subject the soldiers and their family members proudly serving in all branches of the armed services to the anti-military filth that the hosts of the shows on Air America spew anyway? Besides, the liberal point of view is already disseminated on AFN through National Public Radio.

I suggest that if anyone wants to listen to their kook-theory scare-the-people diatribes, he or she should simply go to Air America’s Web site and listen for free. And if anyone dislikes listening to the things that Limbaugh has to say that much, he or she should simply exercise the greatest freedom we have as Americans, the freedom of choice, and change the channel.

Spc. John S. Wollaston Camp Casey, South Korea

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These started showing up in my mail box yesterday. The original letter writer started first:

Why don't you believe in equal time? Then you could make your own decision instead of someone else telling you what to think? I regularly listen to those I don't agree with...otherwise I'd be living in a bubble. I learn so much that way. When I'm against something or for something.. I KNOW why. When you just listen to Rush...you are just repeating his thoughts..not your own.

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Subject: Hey FreepTard

Must be nice to be sitting in the rear with the gear rather than wearing a flak jacket and web gear with the poor slobs in the Iraqi theater, huh?

Regarding your bullshit letter in S&S (and calling it bullshit is being polite):

"Second, why would anyone want to subject the soldiers and their family members proudly serving in all branches of the armed services to the anti-military filth that the hosts of the shows on Air America spew anyway?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3380046

You obviously have never listened to Randi Rhodes. She, like me, is a veteran. She served in the Air Force. She is a staunch defender of servicemembers and their families, no matter what your masters told you.

If you weren't a knuckle-dragging freeptard, you'd know that.

Hey, maybe before you open your yap and spew your own version of hate, maybe you should open your ears and actually listen to who is saying what, who is defending who. Bush is cutting veteran's benefits. Rush tell you that? Bush sent the Army to war without body armor. Rush tell you that?

No, you'd rather drink the Bush Kool Aid and believe the lies Limbaugh spews rather than open your d*mn eyes and realize you've been conned.

Oh, and Google is our friend at Democratic Underground.

Dumbass. ---------------------------------------------------------

Subject: What Planet Are You From?

Sir: I am not sure from where your delusions stem, but let's clear up a couple of things: Air America is not 'hate speech;' it's free speech, and small balance to the right-wing venom polluting the airwaves. NPR is highly-censored, 'right-wing lite' news. Rush Limbaugh really truly honestly IS a big fat idiot (and a liar to boot). Also, you may want to get your facts straight, if you want to consider yourself in any way a 'journalist.' There is NO 'form letter' on the Democratic Underground, demanding equal time for Air America on AFN, or on any other issue. Here at Democratic Underground, we pride ourselves on being sufficiently intelligent to write our own letters, in our own words, expressing our own thoughts. In other words, we are not merely 'dittoheads.' I am sorry to hear that you consider Air America's programming to be 'anti-military filth.' You must have a pretty loose standard for what you consider to be anti-military. You must surely despise the Bush administration's cutting of funding for VA hospitals; talk about anti-military filth! And from a deserter to boot. What a black mark in American history to have a Commander in Thief who ran from duty like George W. Bush did (not to mention Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld). Your writing sounds eerily like the hate-filled rants of Rush himself. Or are you simply another paid shill for the Bush administration, like 'journalist' James Guckert/Jeff Gannon? One last thought: if you really value the freedoms of our Constitution, you might want to take a look at the way Bush has violated his oath of office in his attempts to dismantle the First Amendment.

Sincerely Yours, Minnesota Grandmother for Truth ---------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Might Wanna Look John

Your names all over the bloghs John ... Damn!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3380046&mesg_id=3380046

FIGHT WAR, NOT WARS! KILL POWER, NOT PEOPLE!

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Subject: Fatboy Limbaugh

hey, I read your little rant about the Fat, Draft Dodging, Drug Addicted, Wife Trashing Limbaugh and would like to comment.

If a US serviceman wants to change the channel what does he change it to ?

Also, your pic should be changed. I noticed you are out of uniform. I believe being overweight is out of uniform, unless the weight is all concentrated in your necks.

I would also suggest you stop being so political. When I served honorably in the USMC, unlike your draft dodging, alcoholic Commander In Chief, I was told not to be political.

So, get a life. _________________________________________________________

So this is the respone from the "Freedom of Speech" crowd when you dare speak about their beloved little SCARE America. They have been assaulting my AFN e-mail account with this crap since yesterday. I gave NO indication that I worked for AFN, in fact I wrote the letter from my computer in my barracks room. It would also appear that I'm the target of my own thread in DUmmie land. Any advice or ideas for how I should handle this would be greatly appreciated. I need the power of the FReepers to help me on this. Thanks guys.


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To: txradioguy
Hi Tx glad to see you tonight. Personally, I would ignore them. DU's have very short memories, they will forget it soon. But, if you absolutely must send something, and not to ursurp SolidRedState, why not send them this, with no words?
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101 posted on 03/31/2005 9:56:04 PM PST by CitizenM (An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded. Pope John Paul II)
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To: txradioguy

Don't bother with them. No matter what you say, they will screech back at you. That gets annoying.

My advice? Go down to TDC, hit the Together Club (if its still there) and have a drink... or 5. Forget about 'em. They aren't worth your time.


102 posted on 03/31/2005 9:58:33 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: txradioguy
Radio Guy, not a good idea, and I'll tell you why, sir. The libs have a Stalinst way of arguing, in which they interrupt every time you make a point, they are heavily into name calling and character assassination, and they draw uneven moral equivalence to counter every valid point (Alan Colmes does each of these except name calling, for example).

Interestingly, this is a key to the way the "progressives" think.

Have you ever wondered why liberal MSM is so scared of a few talk shows and us Freepers? It's because they know, deep down in their DNA that they can't compete with the truth. They bend, splice, o...mit, spike, forge memos, make deals with dictators, and lie outright until the reported world fits their template and world view. And they'll never consider all the actual facts that they so blithely snub.

This all goes to say, Radioguy, that the glowing truth won't usually phase them, especially on their turf, among their Utopian collectivist minders.

The best way to handle? I recommend corresponding with the blogosphere (to the extent permitted by regulations) just like the post here on FR!

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103 posted on 03/31/2005 10:00:10 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA; PJ-Comix; franksolich
Can you give me a link to that 9/11 - 11/3 thread?

I don't have the link, but I'm paging two wise men (wise guys?) who will know where it is.

105 posted on 03/31/2005 10:03:14 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (If this case were a TV movie, Columbo would be showing up everywhere Michael Schiavo goes.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hey Slings, how's your cat?


106 posted on 03/31/2005 10:04:31 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (If this case were a TV movie, Columbo would be showing up everywhere Michael Schiavo goes.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Hey Slings, how's your cat?

Zia is a furry, arrogant, bad-tempered, manic-depressive demon...in other words, a perfectly healthy cat.

Hope you're doing well. How's Rambette's job situation?

107 posted on 03/31/2005 10:24:06 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("The Internet, where men are men, women are men, and little girls are FBI agents..." --Unknown)
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To: txradioguy
You really pissed off the oh so tolerant peace lovers.It's funny how intolerant and angry they become when someone raises different points of view.Liberals always pretend to be something they're not to either impress or attempt to intimidate someone they have a disagreement with.That one mailer who claimed to be a former Marine is probably lying through his teeth.He sounds more credible discussing military issues as a former Marine instead of the gay transsexual anti war vegan he really is.
108 posted on 03/31/2005 10:41:08 PM PST by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: txradioguy
"So I'm thinking of e-mailing the Devil himself Skinner and challenging him to let me on there to defend myself."

That's probably just a waste of time and might also pump them up by knowing they 'got to you'.

Here are a few of my suggestions (check them all out with JAG & superiors so you don't violate any little known rules, orders or guidelines):

  1. Have some fun (computer tips assume you run on Windows platform & use Outlook or similar email program).
    a.    create a subfolder for your inbox and create a rule that picks key words (like "Air America") from the body of the email and automatically moves them to that new subfolder.  Then, once a week, open the folder and select any message and from the main menu (at the top), choose 'edit' then 'select all'.  everything in the subfolder should then be highlighted, so right-click on any of them and choose 'forward items' from the pop-up menu.  A new message window will pop-up with all the offensive e-mails attached.  Now you can send all of them at the same time to as many contacts (separate the addresses on the 'To:' line with a ; and a space) as needed to get your point across.  If sending to your email postmaster, include an explanation; if back to the sender, include a happy phrase like 'you've got mail', (heheh).
    b.    get a temporary blog and post all of them and invite comments, include their names, addresses and phone numbers, if you know them (check on possible liability before doing this).
    c.    post them on someone else's blog (if friendly, get permission - if DUmmy, just do it).
    d.    send samples to Rush, Hannity, Tony Snow, etc. along with your comments.
    e.    reply to each with only a link to a website - like Rush or Hannity or any other that would drive them crazy.
  2. Get serious - file complaints with your postmaster and theirs as well as websites that track and list spammers; use a program like 'Sam Spade' to track down spoofed return addresses and complain to the webmasters of those servers.
  3. ignore them - laugh at them, then delete and forget about it.
  4. sign each of them up for numerous conservative newsletters.
  5. sign each of them up for numerous promotional lists and emails, really oddball newsletters, etc.

As I mentioned, first check out any tactics for legality and liability.  We don't want you to get into any kind of hassle over this - just isn't worth it.

Good Luck!

FReegards,

Rebel Flag Texas Flag
RebelTex


109 posted on 03/31/2005 10:43:02 PM PST by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump!


110 posted on 03/31/2005 10:45:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Yeah it's still there. I normally go to USA and have a Soju Slushie...or 5...tonite sounds like a good nite to do that.


111 posted on 03/31/2005 11:08:38 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

Send the info to Hannity or call in -- maybe you'll get to tell your story on his radio or TV show, to let the world now how low, despicable and DESPERATE the Dems have become.

I wouldn't bother to react to them directly -- that may encourage them to continue their attacks of you and others.

But getting the word out will show the REAL people out there what the Dems are all about: hate, hate, and hate, with nothing positive to offer, their entire message is the destruction of anything and everything good and patriotic.

I am glad you wrote that letter -- people need to be informed.

Best of luck to you!


112 posted on 03/31/2005 11:14:40 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

That's an idea. I thought of sending them to James Taranto over at BestofTheWeb.com they love to needle the DUmmies from time to time.


113 posted on 03/31/2005 11:17:25 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: rdcorso

That whole post had me laughing so hard I forgot what I was gonna say.

Oh yeah, if the worst that guy can do is claim I'm "out of uniform" then I ain't gotta worry about him being a "Marine".

I guess the party of "tolerence" is only that way if you are assimilated into the collective like they are.


114 posted on 03/31/2005 11:23:58 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

"I thought of sending them to James Taranto over at BestofTheWeb.com they love to needle the DUmmies from time to time"


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Do it! And send it to Limbaugh too, he will probably give you and the info airtime too. Spread the word far and wide, but don't respond to them directly. Embarrass them, instead of giving them the satisfaction of replying to them directly.

They are pathetic. And the world needs to know, hopefully the more decent Democrats will realize that the "party have left them" and they will leave the party, or at least give some thought to reforming it and not allow the far left anti-US elements to take it over.

Your letter to the Stars and Stripes was excellent. It is in sharp contrast with the lunatic ravings of the left -- another good thing that people will notice, as this hopefully gets more publicity -- but your best bet is through the conservative talk shows, papers, and so on.


115 posted on 03/31/2005 11:26:11 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: All

Did anyone notice too that for a bunch that shrieked denial that the "We Want Air America" thing was a DU operation...I sure got a LOT of hatemail from DUmmies...and a discussion thread dedicated to me on DU?

Hmmmm...(scratching head)think they might just be mad cause they were outed?


116 posted on 03/31/2005 11:31:07 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

They, DU, are just to dumb to know how stupid they are.


117 posted on 03/31/2005 11:33:14 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Proud to be a Viet Nam Vet AND a Lifelong Independent Voter!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Isn't calling DU folks dumb kinda repetitive?


118 posted on 03/31/2005 11:35:33 PM PST by txradioguy (When liberty’s in jeopardy, I will always do what’s right...)
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To: txradioguy

Yeah, your right! LOL


119 posted on 03/31/2005 11:37:06 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Proud to be a Viet Nam Vet AND a Lifelong Independent Voter!)
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To: txradioguy
Nite Sir
Almost 0000 in Oregon right now

Thank You for your service to our country.
120 posted on 03/31/2005 11:44:44 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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