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Much needed platform for moderate Islam
Front Page Magazine ^ | March 31, 2005 | Stephen Schwartz

Posted on 03/31/2005 3:49:51 PM PST by Falconspeed

On March 25, seven American Muslim activists joined me in founding a new, and much-needed platform for moderate Islam in America. Our organization is titled the Center for Islamic Pluralism. We have a website, www.islamicpluralism.org, at which our inaugural press release may be read, and have gained tax-exempt status as a public charity under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code...

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Worth our attention. Worth our support. Schwartz is a brilliant man with a brilliant plan.
1 posted on 03/31/2005 3:49:51 PM PST by Falconspeed
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To: Falconspeed

The Muslim I see pissing on a portrait of Osama Bin Laden is a Muslim I will believe is moderate. Nothing less will do.


2 posted on 03/31/2005 3:52:40 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Falconspeed
From their website:

CIP's aims are to: Promote moderate Islam in the U.S. and globally; Educate the American public, media, and government about moderate Islam; Oppose the influence of militant Islam in the United States and abroad. Promote authentic and constructive interfaith dialogue between Muslims and adherents of other faiths.

One word. TAQIYAH!

3 posted on 03/31/2005 3:55:25 PM PST by WarPaint
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To: Falconspeed
What is the meaning of "Taqiyah" and what is its significance in Islamic termi­nology?

Answer: In Islamic terminology it means "to save life, honour. or property (either one's own or of other be­lievers) by hiding one's belief or religion".

i.e. It's OK to lie about Islam. Muslims have one goal in mind - convert of conquer the world. Muslims will lie to achieve it, and are therefore not worthy of our trust no matter what they say.

http://www.al-islam.org/taqiyah/
4 posted on 03/31/2005 3:55:29 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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Spencer pretty much exposes this:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005567.php

Read through the links as well...


5 posted on 03/31/2005 3:56:35 PM PST by oolatec
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To: Falconspeed

The trouble with Islam is that as long as people follow it they must revere Muhammad. It is when they revere and emulate Muhammad that trouble starts for the rest of us.

Some Moslems do view Muhammad and his teachings as poetic history instead of as a guidebook on how to live today, that is true. However, the Wahabbists, Iranian Ayatollahs, Taliban, and Al Qaeda are practicing a more pure Islam as it was practiced in the first 200 years. That is a simple fact verifiable by a simple reading of the Haddiths.

The only reform that would make Islam compatible with modern civilization would be to repudiate the first 200 years of Islamic history.


6 posted on 03/31/2005 3:59:56 PM PST by OK
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To: Falconspeed
[A] new, and much-needed platform for moderate Islam in America.

We all know that Islam is the false worship of the moon god and is based on violence. But since we cannot delete Islam from the world tomorrow, we might as well fix it from within and open it up to the light. "The brave soul can mend even disaster." Catherine of Russia.
7 posted on 03/31/2005 4:05:39 PM PST by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. R.L.Stevenson)
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To: Falconspeed
"And that defines the other side of our mission: to foster a new relationship between American Islam and our country."

A "relationship" between American Islam and our country will inevitably lead to an Islamic America. That's the goal of Islam because that's the nature of Islam. It's a dangerous religion and it's not inherently peaceful, nor does it tolerate freedom. What nation is predominately Muslim and free?
8 posted on 03/31/2005 4:10:04 PM PST by Jaysun (I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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To: Jaysun

First of all, excellent tag line. Too funny. And I agree with you, that "the nature of Islam" is dangerous. I just think that once some Muslims open up to pluarlism, then their views will change and lead to the rejection of 90% of the Koran.


9 posted on 03/31/2005 4:19:17 PM PST by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. R.L.Stevenson)
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To: Falconspeed

Schwartz is an idiot who is ignored by everyone.


10 posted on 03/31/2005 4:24:32 PM PST by ValenB4 (ID is irreducible simplicity.)
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To: Balkans

Schwartz (AKA Suleyman Ahmad) has gained quite the reputation as a disinformation specialist fronting for the Muhammedans. He was outspoken in his defense of the bombing of Christian Serbs on Easter Sunday in support of the "peaceful" narco-terrorists who were invading Kosovo.


11 posted on 03/31/2005 4:27:12 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib
WHO IS THIS PERSON?

Who is this person, this man Stephen Schwartz?
a question that's asked by all manner and sorts

A trade union man who ne'er mastered a trade
Or a man of the sea, who not one voyage made

An agent of anarchy in a radical cell
Merely playing a role for a story to sell

His passions confined to wars already lost
To bleed for beliefs? far too high a cost

With blood still being spilled for poor people's fate
He chose the Spanish revolt, half-century too late

All ongoing struggles and fighting and killing
Were sidestepped with care by this warrior unwilling

Devoid of real courage and anarchist zest
He waged his revolt from the Cafe Trieste

No explosions nor death, desert heat, jungle rains
Just Latte's, Biscottis, and hemorroidal pains

Comrade Sandalio walked away from the causes
An insurgent impotent, he obeyed all the lawses

But a new calling leapt from deep in his soul
To pen biographique for whom the bell tolls

At the obituary desk in the heart of the city
Steve's secret life, just like Walter Mitty

While cutting and pasting details of the dead
To a war-ravaged land his fantasy led

Overnight, so it seems, a New Cause did emerge
Convert to Islam! An irrepressible urge!

Cartoon-like comb-over, ellipsoidal bod
Strange creature indeed, Suleyman ben Ahmad

Fake revolutionary? No, no, not any more
Now a make-believe journalist, bound for the war!

And Steve's new religion and peaceful dictate
Caused nary a pause in his spreading of hate

We now see the dream of this red diaper boy
To preach war on TV is his true pride and joy

And no hawk so fierce, on the left or the right
As one calling for War once he's too old to fight

But, balding and bitter, Schwartz did what he can
To wage holy war 'gainst beloved Islam

Stephen's Black Book of Bad Men, those who plot and deceive
Was it scripted for Ahmad in old Tel Aviv?

A self-proclaimed Sufi peddling Sharon's agenda
He tiptoes the high wire as if born a Wallenda

He's rejected your culture; he's mocked it for years
Now he calls for your sons to shed blood, sweat and tears

Before waging a war from this charlatan's teaching
Look up His Own History and what he's been preaching

And there you will find amidst all of the rubble
A life of Great Causes...

but none worth your trouble.

Mustafa Fazool
California Big Wave Sufi

12 posted on 03/31/2005 4:36:14 PM PST by ValenB4 (ID is irreducible simplicity.)
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To: ValenB4
Bravo. "Devoid of real courage and anarchist zest; He waged his revolt from the Cafe Trieste." Awesome. Amazing talent.

"Before waging a war from this charlatan's teaching. Look up His Own History and what he's been preaching." Very good advice. I disagree, however, that Schwartz is a charlatan. His support for President George W. Bush is genuine and his critique of communism is accurate.
13 posted on 03/31/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by Falconspeed (Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others. R.L.Stevenson)
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To: Falconspeed

Not buying it.
'Moderate Islam' is like moderate cannabilism.
What? They only hate infidels and plan world domination on weekends?
Moderate Islam is an oxymoron.


14 posted on 03/31/2005 6:08:25 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Falconspeed

I guess. I'm not doubting that he's genuine. It's possible to be genuine and insane. But don't put too much faith in this nut. Who knows what ideological identity he will adopt next. If you want credible people who criticize Islam, I suggest Ali Sina and Ibn Warraq.


15 posted on 03/31/2005 8:18:58 PM PST by ValenB4 (ID is irreducible simplicity.)
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