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Terri Schiavo has passed away
CNN ^ | 3/31 1005 | CNN

Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit

Breaking now on CNN

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To: AndrewC
No, no, no. You're totally misreading that. An order denying the TRO is not the de novo review itself - it's just a preliminary to see if injunctive relief is warranted prior to the review. The act did not mandate relief - it could have, of course, but it didn't - and hence the courts fell back on the usual standards for injunctive relief, which the Schindlers couldn't possibly meet. Why, for heaven's sake, didn't Congress mandate relief so as to keep her alive for her due process review?
2,601 posted on 03/31/2005 8:55:49 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re

Guess I will have to go get the proof...I HATE THAT!


2,602 posted on 03/31/2005 8:58:12 PM PST by Republic (My life support today -KNOWING OUR FATHER ANSWERS PRAYERS!)
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To: combat_boots

Patients in hospitals should be turned every two hours for circulation and skin care and prevention of damage.


2,603 posted on 03/31/2005 8:58:49 PM PST by gentlestrength
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To: general_re

"Judges travel within the parameters that we set for them, via the legislature."

Most have not done that lately. Where have you been? Most judges lately have been making their own rules as they go along and the legislature be ......


2,604 posted on 03/31/2005 8:59:02 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: joanie-f

Beautifully stated, joanie.


2,605 posted on 03/31/2005 9:00:51 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Most have not done that lately.

Sure they have - those parameters are just not as narrow as legislators want you to believe. Congress and the state legislators have been abdicating their responsibilities to the courts for decades now, and they generally prefer it that way - they take the credit for the things that people like, and they get to blame the courts for whatever goes wrong. It's perfect. Well, perfect for spineless legislators, anyway, which is most of them.

2,606 posted on 03/31/2005 9:02:46 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re
No, no, no. You're totally misreading that. An order denying the TRO is not the de novo review itself - it's just a preliminary to see if injunctive relief is warranted prior to the review. The act did not mandate relief - it could have, of course, but it didn't - and hence the courts fell back on the usual standards for injunctive relief, which the Schindlers couldn't possibly meet. Why, for heaven's sake, didn't Congress mandate relief so as to keep her alive for her due process review?

No I am not misreading it.(I know what a temporary restraining order (TRO) is) She did not receive the de novo review the law required. It is common sense to not kill someone until justice has run its course. Do they execute prisoners before due process has been completed?

2,607 posted on 03/31/2005 9:03:46 PM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for clarifying this.


2,608 posted on 03/31/2005 9:04:31 PM PST by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: All

Time is Time love is love good strong G-D do will help!!!!!Good strong G-D is total LOVE!!!!!Be strong be good America good persons!!!Thank you all


2,609 posted on 03/31/2005 9:06:28 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: baseballmom

Prayers for Terri and her loving family members.


2,610 posted on 03/31/2005 9:07:19 PM PST by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops! (Hillary's Vast Rt Wg Conspiracy))
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To: AndrewC
She did not receive the de novo review the law required.

She didn't get the TRO in that snippet you posted, and despite the public posturing of Bill Frist, the language they passed called for nothing more than a procedural review, which they got. Ya got snookered, my friend - DeLay and Frist and Levin bamboozled you and everyone.

It is common sense to not kill someone until justice has run its course.

Not common enough for Congress to mandate relief, obviously, even though they knew - they knew - the Schindlers couldn't possibly get an injunction based on the usual standards. Look at the legislative record, and tell me Levin didn't know that damn well right from the get-go. Without mandatory relief, that bill was a worthless do-nothing piece of publicity fluff, pure and simple.

2,611 posted on 03/31/2005 9:08:37 PM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: All

This may be just a tad off topic but........what exactly are we teaching our children? When my 8 yo daughter got home from school today I had to tell her that Terri had passed on. She bowed her head for a moment and asked me 'Mommy why did they kill her cause she couldn't talk? Her mommy would have taken care of her'


2,612 posted on 03/31/2005 9:09:21 PM PST by sfimom ('Mommy why did they kill her cause she couldn't talk?')
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To: sfimom

Out of the mouth of babes. Children know.


2,613 posted on 03/31/2005 9:11:25 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

We would be better off if children ran the world.


2,614 posted on 03/31/2005 9:12:56 PM PST by sfimom ('Mommy why did they kill her cause she couldn't talk?')
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To: sfimom

Yes we would.


2,615 posted on 03/31/2005 9:17:05 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for posting that. It is so true. This is a very sad day in the history of this once great nation!


2,616 posted on 03/31/2005 9:17:29 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (This is a sad day in the history of America. Our once great nation has lost its way.)
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To: general_re
And this "discretion" issue is precisely why this statement was made (in addition to the complete lack of comity one could expect would be forthcoming by one branch regarding the INTENT of the bill passed by the other two branches).

"This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change. The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another." - House Republican Leader Tom DeLay."

And though you're apparently in the "law business," you should not be surpised at the movement afoot that's unfolding to scrutinize the judiciary in ways perhaps never before seen. You may even see a few judicial committee hearings empaneled that will elicit accountability, as well as some judicial impeachments because, as you know, the judiciary is a co-equal NOT superior branch of our government, at least the last time I checked.

2,617 posted on 03/31/2005 9:18:21 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE .... PRAY FOR TERRI AND HER FAMILY. 'WHERE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE!")
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To: general_re

The realistic expectation of comity (but then they were so naive as to have the presumption that judges are men and women of honor.)


2,618 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:11 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE .... PRAY FOR TERRI AND HER FAMILY. 'WHERE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE!")
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To: general_re
She didn't get the TRO in that snippet you posted, and despite the public posturing of Bill Frist, the language they passed called for nothing more than a procedural review, which they got

You can't be serious! The damned judge admitted that a de novo review was evident in the passed law!!!

2,619 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:21 PM PST by AndrewC (All these moments are tossed in lime, like trains in the rear.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping. She is with God.


2,620 posted on 03/31/2005 9:20:49 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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