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Public execution
The Spectator ^
| 2 April 2005
| Mark Steyn
Posted on 03/31/2005 5:25:20 AM PST by mal
Do you remember a fellow called Robert Wendland? No reason why you should. I wrote about him in this space in 1998, and had intended to return to the subject but something else always intervened usually Bill Clintons penis, which loomed large, at least metaphorically, over the entire era. Mr Wendland lived in Stockton, California. He was injured in an automobile accident in 1993 and went into a coma. Under state law, he could have been starved to death at any time had his wife requested the removal of his feeding tube. But Rose Wendland was busy with this and that, as one is, and assumed there was no particular urgency.
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To: Miss Marple
Of course, I could make my point better if I bothered to use the spell check feature.
To: cyncooper
...preferring one over the other does not mean one is less pro-life as has been the erroneous charge tossed around here oh so casually. I disagree. There are those who believe that it is morally okay to kill someone by starvation/dehydration, if it is what they wished. I think a case can be made that is not a pro-life position. We can agree on most pro-life positions, but that doesn't happen to be one of them.
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:07:08 AM PST
by
TheDon
(The Democrat Party is the party of TREASON)
To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The court does not make law. Hmmmm...Roe v Wade....someone really should inform the court.
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:08:07 AM PST
by
TheDon
(The Democrat Party is the party of TREASON)
To: TheDon
"The court does not make law."
Hmmmm...Roe v Wade....someone really should inform the court.
Yes we should.
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:14:57 AM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
To: TheDon
Well, as my point plainly was, I prefer the tone taken by Praeger/Hewitt/Medved and they all agree that removal of a feeding tube can certainly be moral and right.
Disagree all you wish, but don't call them or me not pro-life.
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:21:46 AM PST
by
cyncooper
(I see pod people)
To: Pokey78; Dane; rhema; JohnHuang2; xzins
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:22:18 AM PST
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: B Knotts
It's been pointed out here on FR yesterday, iirc -- we've jumped right to compulsory.
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:24:14 AM PST
by
bvw
To: Pokey78
Another great one from Steyn.
To: Pokey78
if you want to execute someone who hasnt committed a crime, you dont need to worry with any of this beyond a reasonable doubt stuffBTTT
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posted on
03/31/2005 7:49:29 AM PST
by
Gritty
("The step from convenience euthanasia to compulsory euthanasia is a short one"-Mark Steyn)
To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
This logic would imply that unless we are aware and conscious, we cease to be.Hmm, seems I die every night about 11.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:15:45 AM PST
by
D-fendr
To: xzins
Thank you for your post!
Is it actually possible that Michael Schiavo's lawyer just said that the murder of millions of Jews was a good thing???!! Am I MISREADING THIS!??
It reads that way to me as well. I find his reference to 'collective consciousness' interesting also. Evidently he has an Eastern mysticism view of things - the dead recycle in the "whole" as it strives to become more.
Evidently with the holocaust, he sees the Jews becoming the sacrificial lamb for a 'quantum leap' in the 'collective consciousness'.
What is bizarre for me personally is that I see God's will in Terri's life and death - forcing everyone who even heard of it much less were involved to make a decision deep in their souls - for or against life of any quality. I also believe many will be examining their own motives (even if they try not to do so) - whether they were seeking God's will or their own.
This does not however put me in Felos' camp - only that I do see a greater purpose in every life and death. For Felos it is a purpose of a 'collective consciousness' but for me, it is God's will.
To: cyncooper
Pro-life is not an all or nothing position. If you are against abortion, that is certainly a pro-life position. Many dehumanize the unborn and thereby justify killing the unborn. If you are for euthanasia, that is not a pro-life position. Many would say that executing murderers is not a pro-life position. So, I'm against abortion and euthanasia, but for executing murderers. Go figure.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:25:25 AM PST
by
TheDon
(The Democrat Party is the party of TREASON)
To: mal
There is a tribute to Robert Wendland on my FR page.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:27:13 AM PST
by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
To: Miss Marple
Agreed, I choose to ignore such nonsense and simply stick to the issues. The name callers do so because they can not argue their points well. And it shows. I'm against euthanasia and abortion myself.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:27:55 AM PST
by
TheDon
(The Democrat Party is the party of TREASON)
To: tnlibertarian
Ah, yes, which is why we have had compulsory abortion in this country for years, now.No doubt it will be exported from China.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:31:06 AM PST
by
AmishDude
(Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your insight!
In making the Holocaust a voluntary self-sacrifice "in the Jewish collective consciousness," Hitler and the Nazis are relieved of all guilt for trying to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth.
Indeed. I wonder if that was his intention or whether, like Pinker's theory of the mind, he didn't think it through. Nevertheless, to whichever extent either worldview spreads in our society there must be the correlary - the inability to justify personal responsibility and punishment.
To: xzins
Felos is a T*rd, and an embarrassment to the legal profession. Period.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:33:07 AM PST
by
nobdysfool
(Faith in Christ is the evidence of God's choosing, not the cause of it.)
To: AmishDude
No doubt it will be exported from China. Are you saying Wal-Mart is going to sell compulsary abortions?
To: cyncooper
And what shall we do with that fellow...what's his name...Hawking?
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:37:09 AM PST
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AmishDude
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To: tnlibertarian
Are you saying Wal-Mart is going to sell compulsary abortions?No. Obviously it's payment for the technology.
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posted on
03/31/2005 8:38:16 AM PST
by
AmishDude
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