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Top Neurologist's Report on Terri Released
NewsMax ^ | 3/30/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 03/30/2005 7:14:14 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: WOSG

"Are people who get only 350 on SAT then PVS cases?"

Nope, they're Florida judges!


161 posted on 03/30/2005 9:37:41 PM PST by Sterlis
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To: tscislaw

bttt


162 posted on 03/30/2005 9:38:13 PM PST by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: wagglebee

(From the report:)

Impression:

The patient is not in coma.

She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific people best.

She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise.

She responds negatively to poor tone of voice.

She responds to music.

She differentiates sounds from voices.

She differentiates specific people's voices from others.

She differentiates music from stray sound.

She attempts to verbalize.

She has voluntary control over multiple extremities

She can swallow.

She is partially blind

She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.

She can feel pain.

On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.


163 posted on 03/30/2005 9:38:39 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: MHGinTN

Actually, I would like to apologize for saying things that I said about you. To be honest, I still believe they were quite justified by your behavior, but I apologize anyway.

In the future, you might refrain from launching completely unjustified attacks on people just because they post the truth and you don't like it. Just a suggestion.

I wish you well.


164 posted on 03/30/2005 9:39:56 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: presently no screen name

First of all, you duck the credentials deal, so I assume all you know is what you read. Certainly all you do is to post attacks, NOT persue the truth. You have an opinion, and those of us who question any aspect of your opinion (or your "fact") are burned at your rhetorical stake. After all, a 99% supporter, 1% opponent, is 100% traitor, right?

Second, THIS POST concerns the work of the doctor. If you want to start yet another vanity post talking about MS, go ahead, and I'll join you there (or not).

Third, you have no evidence at all that I'm a MS fan. IN fact, you have my posts that make it obvious that the contrary is true. My background indicates that I wouldn't be likely to support him.


165 posted on 03/30/2005 9:39:56 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: Empireoftheatom48
Please do not be "down".

Terri will win the best prize of all. I believe with all my heart, that she is suffering the fate of a Holy Martyr. I beieve she will live forever with GOD.

Be strong as the Christians of old.... as they watched their own killed for their Love of Christ.

Rejoice GOD will be glorified in this. Terri will LIVE WITH GOD for all eternity.

166 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:05 PM PST by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: TWohlford

It's a bit disheartening that those who are interested in the actual truth are treated as scum by certain others around here. I would've thought Freepers valued the truth.

Ah well, I guess I'd better give it up and go to bed.


167 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:41 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: presently no screen name

"Anyone ever say you are a bit transparent? How much have you dug up about MS???"

The moment you put some work of MS on here I'll do the same to him.

And you can see the full body of my work on here. You'll see that I've been here a long time, and my posts indicate that you haven't done your homework on your accusation. Suprise, suprise.


168 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:54 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Cudos for your work. I appreciate you... even if some don't.

Newt reminded us years ago that someone who votes with you 80% of the time isn't a 100% traitor. Tonite, if you question one piece of evidence, you're burned at the stake.


169 posted on 03/30/2005 9:44:14 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
You put your credentials on line -


YOU SAY IT and I SHOULD BELIEVE IT? ? ?
Whatever you say - because YOU wrote YOUR credentials - therefore, must be believed and succumb to your way of thinking because you have credentials. Kinda funny.

And you talk about being critical when you mission tonight was to defame the good doctor.
170 posted on 03/30/2005 9:44:16 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: wagglebee

Injury to her neck...


171 posted on 03/30/2005 9:46:30 PM PST by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: presently no screen name

" YOU SAY IT and I SHOULD BELIEVE IT? ? ?
Whatever you say - because YOU wrote YOUR credentials - therefore, must be believed and succumb to your way of thinking because you have credentials. Kinda funny."

I have been there... on several fronts... seen it happen... been part of those decisions. Read my posts.

"And you talk about being critical when you mission tonight was to defame the good doctor."

"Critical" means to go out and find out what truth lies in a person's assertions. "Defame" means that I go out to destroy a person (hmmm... who might that describe tonight?). I simply expose the doctor to the Light of Truth. His works speak for themselves.


172 posted on 03/30/2005 9:47:14 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
Part of what we do on FR is to dig into evidence and look for truth. I'm sorry if this (promising) piece now has credibility issues.

Which key players involved in this case have credibility -none. You appear to only support discrediting those who support your position thus your position is but relatively true. Different court, different state, different experts, different spouse -different outcome. Your 'facts' therefore quite arbitrary...

Some, like myself, consider the various experts and legalities to be secondary to the prime directive -life. Terri is being murdered by starvation...

173 posted on 03/30/2005 9:47:21 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Jrabbit

"conservative" posters

Glad to see you put conservative in quotes. Heck of a world view you have there. Better put some ice on it...


174 posted on 03/30/2005 9:48:58 PM PST by Sterlis
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To: Trout-Mouth
I have some of the same questions. I am not as familiar with the beginning of the case. When one of Terri's friends was interviewed on FOX, who also testifed in the malpractice trial, she said the attorney told her if they mentioned marital problems, it would hurt the size of and chance for, an award. Whether MS has been able to hold the testimony of the Schindlers over there heads, I don't know.

Bobby Schindler did say on FOX that just before Terri collapsed, she told him that she wanted a divorce from Michael and the marriage was not going well.

Also the word HOMICIDE was written on the police report the night Terri collapsed. I suppose the Schindlers didn't want to believe it and thus didn't pursue the possibility at the time.

Brian Schiavo on Florida radio threatened Bobby Schindler with a law suit. Scott and Steve Schiavo made similar intimations when they were on WPHT 1210 AM Philadelphia (they were both banned from the station after their appearances for their threats) regarding anyone who would say Michael hurt Terri.

It has been said Michael admitted in court (though I did NOT see the documentation) that he was proceeding with his legal action for spite against the Schindlers. Michael and his brothers have proven themselves to be VERY vindictive. I wouldn't be surprised if they frighten the Schindlers. And for good reason, particularly with the power of the courts behind them.

175 posted on 03/30/2005 9:49:12 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: vaudine

Great post. Florida State(FSU).. big party school!! LOL!!


176 posted on 03/30/2005 9:50:13 PM PST by Lion in Winter (LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL!!)
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To: DBeers

"You appear to only support discrediting those who support your position thus your position is but relatively true. Different court, different state, different experts, different spouse -different outcome. Your 'facts' therefore quite arbitrary..."

I simply did the FR thing, and google'd the good doctor. No one has argued that the doctor hasn't stretched the truth in the past, and continues to do so. As I pointed out on other posts (which you obviously can't read?) this guy might be the Word of God and he won't be believed. As I keep pointing out, Terri and her parents deserved better.

"Some, like myself, consider the various experts and legalities to be secondary to the prime directive -life. Terri is being murdered by starvation..."

Besides your strong opinions, what life events, etc have brought you to be an "expert"? I've helped make those decisions... have you?


177 posted on 03/30/2005 9:50:16 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: TWohlford
Part of what we do on FR is to dig into evidence and look for truth. I'm sorry if this (promising) piece now has credibility issues. Now you know what the Dems / Left felt like when we trashed the 60 Minutes docs.

Dr. Hammesfahr was tried by the medical boards for a variety of charges, mostly having to do with quackery. He was acquitted on everything except overcharging a patient by about $1800. IIRC, the patient prepaid for one treatment regimen, asked for a different (cheaper) one on arrival, and was given the cheaper one but not given back the difference in price. Not a great thing for Dr. Hammesfahr and his staff to have done, but plausible as negligence rather than deliberate fraud. In any case, I don't see how that should adversely affect the credibility of his factual observations.

178 posted on 03/30/2005 9:51:04 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Ah well, I guess I'd better give it up and go to bed.

Have a midnight snack and glass of cool refreshing milk before retiring.

179 posted on 03/30/2005 9:51:18 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: staterightsfirst
This kind of BS pseudoscience only hurts the case for keeping her alive.

I guess you don't know how to read or process what you have read. Hammesfahr said that she had a delayed reaction in processing verbal commands, up to several minutes.

Read again:

"Interestingly, some of the commands, such as close your eyes, open your eyes, etc. she tended to do several minutes after I gave her the command to do so. She had a delay in her processing of the action. However, when praised for the action, she would then continue to do the action repetitively for up to approximately 5 minutes."

So, no, it's not "BS psuedoscience". Terri is a person with severe neurological impairments who is struggling to follow his commands.

I guess you're a neurological expert?

180 posted on 03/30/2005 9:51:25 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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