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To: Mr. Silverback

re; "...and the destruction of marriage itself."

Last August I attended a very traditional HETERO m@rri@ge here in the Great White North and NOWHERE did I see any sign that the happy couple, their parents, peers or wellwishers felt THAT m@rri@ge was in any way diminished, denigrated, degraded or "destroyed" in that joyous moment by the thought that someone ELSE of homosexual persuasion was ALSO entering into Matrimony with THEIR chosen partner.

Though I had no reason to ask them I suspect if it had been appropriate to inquire "Could somehow your Bliss at this happy event in YOUR life be diminuated by the thought that someone else 'different' to you is ALSO entering into Matrimony? they would have said that they would hope that EVERYONE could experience the Joy they were sharing in that blessed moment.

Certainly NO ONE there felt that THEIR m@rri@ge was 'destroyed' even though doubtless 'gay marriages' were also going on nearby that day. I suspect no one even thought about the fact gays were also marrying...I certainly didnt, just wished Sam and Laura well.

Fear of new and unfamiliar social change is understandable...and not only to conservatives...remember how the liberals were terrified that 'shall issue'/'right to carry' handgun carry-permit legislation if enacted widely by US states [now about 2/3 isnt it?] would lead to 'bloodbaths on the streets'.

Well it didnt happen...and neither will 'Traditional m@rri@ge' be 'destroyed' if OTHER forms of NONtraditional m@rri@ge [including gay m@rri@ge] that FREEmen and women CHOOSE for themselves are recognized by the High Court as their equal Right under Law in the Land Of The FREE and the Home Of The Brave.

Have some of that COURAGE; gay m@rri@ge is NOT the end of anything for those of us who would dearly love to choose the traditional kind...its simply a beginning for those who might choose otherwise. God bless Liberty.

Traditional m@rri@ge WASN'T 'destroyed' HERE last August when Sam and Laura entered into it and it WON'T be destroyed for y'all either [if the thought that gays might be married could make you feel YOURS is suddenly worthless methinks you have bigger problems than gay m@rri@ge LOLOL] if the Courts recognize and protect gays equal rights to m@rry under Law.

Okay y'all can 'attack' the Ol Canucklehead now ;-) ;-)


17 posted on 03/30/2005 8:23:21 PM PST by FYREDEUS
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To: FYREDEUS
Okay y'all can 'attack' the Ol Canucklehead now ;-) ;-)

Take your homosexual advocacy back to DU.

21 posted on 03/30/2005 8:42:20 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: FYREDEUS

I don't think anyone who can't spell marriage is worth attacking.

If you can't understand that undermining an ancient institution by redefining it into something it is not (and never has been...) won't damage society as a whole, its not worth the effort to argue with you.


22 posted on 03/30/2005 8:48:43 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: FYREDEUS
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23 posted on 03/30/2005 9:00:07 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: FYREDEUS
...and neither will 'Traditional m@rri@ge' be 'destroyed' if OTHER forms of NONtraditional m@rri@ge [including gay m@rri@ge] that FREEmen and women CHOOSE for themselves are recognized by the High Court as their equal Right under Law in the Land Of The FREE and the Home Of The Brave.

So, based on your comments, I would assume that you are in favor of allowing polygamous marriage. Am I correct?

30 posted on 03/31/2005 12:12:37 AM PST by judgeandjury
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To: FYREDEUS
A few questions:

1. What's with the "m@rri@ge" spelling?

2. You wrote this...

Fear of new and unfamiliar social change is understandable...and not only to conservatives...remember how the liberals were terrified that 'shall issue'/'right to carry' handgun carry-permit legislation if enacted widely by US states [now about 2/3 isnt it?] would lead to 'bloodbaths on the streets'.

Now let me ask this...what if the libs had been able to point to another country that had experienced a bloodbath in the streets when it adopted shall issue permits? That would bolster their argument, wouldn't it? In fact, it would be the best kind of evidence, no specualtion, no tortured conclusions, just "They did the same thing and this happened."

Well, here's the problem: In countries that have already jumped off this bridge, we've seen more kids born out of wedlock, few homosexual marriages/civil unions and plenty of suppression of free speech and religious practice. Why should any conservative favor and initiative which led to more fatherless households and tyrannical restrictions, especially if the folks it was supposed to benefit won't take advantage of it?

3. Last time I checked, the same homosexual activists who are pushing homosexual marriage had bullied your country into restricting freedom of speech and religion. If Sam and Laura want to go out on the street corner with a bullhorn or on the radio and read Romans 1, do they get to? Will the Swedish pastor sent to jail for reading Bible passages about homosexuality in a church feel his freedom is undiminished because Sam and Laura had a nice wedding? Are you really going to lecture us about "fear" of social change from a country where the government is afraid of Christians reading things out loud?

4. Have you read any of these:

Results of gay marriage in Scandinavia.

Results of gay marriage in Holland

Where it will lead sociologically.

More on Holland (and why contraception, secularization, etc. aren't the reason for the European problems)

Let's be nice, live-and-let-live libertarian types, just like in Canada.
(In Sweden and Canada gay activists got parts of the Bible made "illegal." Do we want to encourage them in the USA?)

Why libertarians should stand up against gay marriage.

Anything else is covered here.

48 posted on 03/31/2005 3:01:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (If this case were a TV movie, Columbo would be showing up everywhere Michael Schiavo goes.)
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