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Conservative judge blasts Bush, Congress for role in Schiavo case
Knight Ridder ^ | 3/30/05 | Stephen Henderson

Posted on 03/30/2005 5:22:03 PM PST by Crackingham

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To: M. Espinola
My grandmother could take Judge "Weenie" Birch.

And she's dead!

61 posted on 03/30/2005 6:14:43 PM PST by Kimba
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To: Crackingham

When an American citizen who has committed no crime against the state can be sentenced to death by the state, we no longer live in a free republic. I don't care what any of the judges think, this is what has happened. She has had no attorney and no jury. Sentenced to death by one judge and the state, approved by the federal courts.


62 posted on 03/30/2005 6:14:54 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Crackingham
Note to "conservative" judge:

U.S. Constitution Article III:

Section 1. The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. ....

Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, ....

U.S. Constitution Amendment XIV:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

* * *

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

The Schiavo case certainly involves the question of whether Florida's enforcement of its law is abridging her rights guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment expressly authorizes Congress, by appropriate legislation, to enforce the amendment. Birch should get his head out of his a**.

63 posted on 03/30/2005 6:16:35 PM PST by Gee Wally
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To: joesbucks

conservative is good, at least with conservative we get judicial restraint....but conservative does not neccessarily = competent. These people thumbed their collective noses at the elected body of this country, congress....and that is intolerable from a conservative a liberal or anything in between.


64 posted on 03/30/2005 6:18:28 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Crackingham
You know... I have a lot of time on my hands these days, and think it's time to really study the Constitution. If nothing else good comes out of this incredible drama, maybe opening wounds for public debate is healthy, albeit painful.

I'm tired of hating Michael Schiavo... I think his lack of compasion is mind numbing. But the avalanche of Constitutional, legal, congressional, and judicial infomation and debate is enlightening.

That said, I just wish Michael had got a divorce years ago and walked away, returning Terry to her family. What a freakin' cad!

65 posted on 03/30/2005 6:20:44 PM PST by WarPaint
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To: Crackingham

Poppycock. Our imperial judiciary is having a hissy fit because the Congress or the President might dare say "boo"? I guess that explains the disdainful treatment that S.686 received from Whittemore and most of the 11th.


66 posted on 03/30/2005 6:20:48 PM PST by snowsislander (Isa41:17-When the poor and needy seek water,and there is none,and their tongue faileth for thirst...)
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To: Crackingham
But traditional conservatives have decried their abandonment of the party's adherence to limited government, states' rights and separation of powers.

Separation of powers?

Yeah right, these stinking judges are saying the constitution gives them ALL the power and the legislative and executive NONE.

That's their version of separation of(from) power.

If the constitution provides for 3 co-equal branches of government--a paper, scissors, rock type of analogy--the courts have said the judicial branch is rock,rock,rock. The courts have gone from deciding what the law says to creating the law (legislative), enforcing the law (executive), and defying the other two branches to do anything about it. And when the executive or legislative tries anything the courts scream "King's X!! King's X!! You can't do that....Neener, Neener, Neener"

Another way of saying it is the courts have become judge, jury and executioner.

67 posted on 03/30/2005 6:20:55 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: sinkspur

"If you want the federal courts to review every single one of these end-of-life situations, we're gonna have to have A LOT more judges."

Congress and the President addressing America's health care issues one citizen at a time?


68 posted on 03/30/2005 6:21:12 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: mrsmith

Agreed. I'm not passing judgment without reading the opinion, which I haven't done yet.

But you are exactly right - legislatures all over this country exercise their power to define evidentiary and legal standards for the courts to apply as they are written.

Besides, nothing in the new law passed by Congress "robbed" the federal courts of any discretion whatsoever. The law as passed in fact made de novo review itself discretionary, because a few democrat politicians insisted that the word "may" be used instead of "shall".

I have no doubt whatsoever that Congress acted well within its powers.

Sad that as the courts passed the buck they appear now to be lashing out. Need to read the opinion first before drawing any conclusions.


69 posted on 03/30/2005 6:22:34 PM PST by Bush2004
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To: Nick Danger
..if I may paraphrase — that developed procedure must be maintained even if innocents must die"

That reminded me of another infamous quote:

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..."--[EX]President William Jefferson Clinton, USA TODAY 11 Mar 93

70 posted on 03/30/2005 6:23:19 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Crackingham
I think a lot of people see:

I think a lot of those people just sense that there may be some Constitutional issues in the case that deserve some serious consideration.

71 posted on 03/30/2005 6:23:37 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Crackingham
Where does the US Constitution allow for innocent women to be starved to death?

Birch is proving himself yet another Judicial jackass.
72 posted on 03/30/2005 6:24:24 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: Crackingham

this was not a law statement this was a turf statement.

Black Robe Fever strikes again.


73 posted on 03/30/2005 6:24:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Smartaleck
Congress and the President addressing America's health care issues one citizen at a time?

I'm codswalloped that conservatives would stand for this. But, that's where we're headed.

74 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:18 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: DevSix; Kimba
I believe the cops, the very same thugs handcuffing little kids were told to 'send a strong message' through Greer's office.

When judges are allowed to ignore elected officials, the Congress and in this case the President, there is a serious underlining problem in this nation which is being brought to light.

The divisions over the right to life for the disabled are being clearly drawn.

"Jay Sekulow, the chief legal counsel for the conservative American Center for Law and Justice, said Birch got it wrong, while two other judges - including one appointed by Bill Clinton - were right to say they'd accept the Schiavo case."

75 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:42 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: Arthur McGowan
SPINELESS PARK, Fla. (AP) - Jeb Bush has assumed a fetal position and is resting comfortably. Family members report that he has never been more beautiful.

While not agreeing with your sentiment here, I admit that is funny, I don't care who you are.

76 posted on 03/30/2005 6:25:43 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: Crackingham
acting "in a manner demonstrably at odds with our Founding Fathers' blueprint for governance of a free people - our Constitution."

If everything the courts do is right how come they keep coming up with the wrong answer ?

77 posted on 03/30/2005 6:28:28 PM PST by oldbrowser (What really matters is culture, ethos, character, and morality)
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To: seamole
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.

The 14th Amendment (which you quoted) continues with the following:

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

78 posted on 03/30/2005 6:29:17 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Cornpone

What then is the meaning of section 1 and 5 of the 14th amendment?


79 posted on 03/30/2005 6:30:05 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: af_vet_1981

Long time since I studied History but I believe our founding Fathers had seen this same power takeover by judges in England. As a result they made three equal parts of government but actually the weakest branch was to be the judiciary because of this very type of power grab. Now they have overstepped the line.
Yesterday the Supremes refused to intercede ID case. Now your 12yo daughters can have an abortion without any parental consent. How can anyone respect these people?


80 posted on 03/30/2005 6:30:16 PM PST by Hattie
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