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Some fear bloodshed in border watch project
Houston Chronicle ^ | March 30, 2005, 2:09PM | AP

Posted on 03/30/2005 1:24:18 PM PST by thorshammer

March 30, 2005, 2:09PM

TOMBSTONE, Ariz. — Hundreds of volunteers, some of them armed, are expected to take up positions along the Mexican border Friday and begin patrolling for illegal immigrants — an exercise some fear could attract racist crackpots and lead to vigilante violence.

Organizers of the Minuteman Project said the civilian volunteers, many of whom were recruited over the Internet, will meet first for a rally in this one-time silver mining town, then fan out across 23 miles of the San Pedro Valley to watch the border for a month and report sightings of illegal activity to Border Patrol agents.

Minuteman field operations director Chris Simcox described the project as "the nation's largest neighborhood watch group" and said one of the goals is to make the public aware of how porous the border is.

Jim Gilchrist, a retired accountant from Aliso Viejo, Calif., who organized the project, said that some volunteers will carry handguns, which is allowed under Arizona law, but are being instructed to avoid confrontation, even if shot at.

Still, law enforcement officials and human rights advocates are worried about the potential for bloodshed.

Critics contend the project may attract anti-immigrant racists and vigilantes looking to confront illegal immigrants. At least one white supremacist group has mentioned the project on its Web site.

"They are domestic terrorists that represent a danger to the country and could promote a major border conflict that will have serious ramifications and consequences," said Armando Navarro, a University of California-Riverside political science professor and coordinator of the National Alliance for Human Rights, made up mostly of Hispanic activists.

Michael Nicley, chief of the U.S. Border Patrol's Tucson sector, said the volunteers are "not the kind of help the Border Patrol is asking for."

Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever said he fears immigrant smugglers might open fire on the volunteers.

"I wouldn't anticipate that people of that persuasion would act or react any differently to anybody, citizen or law enforcement alike, if they were confronted and felt like their cargo was in jeopardy," he said.

The project's organizers gave assurances the volunteers will be closely monitored. "If it gets to a situation where someone's life is in danger," said David Helppler, Minuteman security coordinator, "I will end the project."

Project organizers said they expect 800 to 1,000 volunteers. How many might actually show is unclear; similar efforts in the past few years flopped. One of them drew only about a half-dozen people.

The Homeland Security Department planned to announce today that is is assigning more than 500 additional patrol agents to the porous Arizona border to help keep out potential terrorists and illegal immigrants, The Associated Press learned.

About 155 agents will be immediately sent to Arizona, according to department officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The 370-mile Arizona border is considered the most vulnerable stretch of the 2,000-mile southern border. Of the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol last year, 51 percent crossed into the country at the Arizona border.

Some people in this town nearly 30 miles north of the Mexican border, best known as the site of the 1881 shootout at the OK Corral, are eagerly awaiting the volunteers' arrival.

Tombstone Mayor Andree De Journett thinks of the volunteers as tourists and said they could boost the local economy.

"I've met five or six of them, they haven't been too bad so far," he said, estimating that 500 extra visitors for a month could mean $10,000 or more spent locally.

Marilynn Slade, Tombstone's city clerk, said the more attention drawn to illegal immigration, the better.

"The vast majority of the people feel that the feds should be dealing more aggressively with the problem," she said. "There's a huge, huge cry down here."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; bloodshed; border; mexico; minutemanproject
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To: thorshammer

I wouldn't care if they did use force against the illegals. This problem needs to be stopped no matter what. Some people don't seem to understand how dangerous this problem is to our nation. It's the illegals breaking the law, not the minutemen. Why can't some of these people see that? These types of projects need to happen all along our southern border. Maybe our government will start doing their job if this starts happening more often. If it comes to violence I just hope that the illegals are on the losing side. If our government won't enforce the laws then people have the right to do it at all cost.


21 posted on 03/30/2005 1:35:54 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: thorshammer; All

The're just doing the work that our border patrol agents are not willing to do.


22 posted on 03/30/2005 1:37:25 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: thorshammer
They are domestic terrorists that represent a danger to the country and could promote a major border conflict that will have serious ramifications and consequences," said Armando Navarro, a University of California-Riverside political science professor.

Organizers of the Minuteman Project should take this fruitcake to civil court for slander!

23 posted on 03/30/2005 1:37:52 PM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: thorshammer
Michael Nicley, chief of the U.S. Border Patrol's Tucson sector, said the volunteers are "not the kind of help the Border Patrol is asking for."

Tough shet.

If Bush would enforce the law, none of this would be necessary.
24 posted on 03/30/2005 1:38:19 PM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: Constitution Day

"They are merely undocumented border patrol agents"

This phrase isn't mine but spread the word!!


25 posted on 03/30/2005 1:38:27 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: thorshammer
UNDOCUMENTED BORDER PATROL AGENTS --- we love you!
26 posted on 03/30/2005 1:39:02 PM PST by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: thorshammer

I worry for their safety, given the disregard illegal aliens have for our laws.


27 posted on 03/30/2005 1:39:31 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: dirtboy

The press is against bloodshed. They prefer starvation or lethal injection.


28 posted on 03/30/2005 1:40:09 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Buffalo Bob
Organizers of the Minuteman Project should take this fruitcake to civil court for slander!

They'd never win. Slander laws in this country are very favorable to the defendant.

30 posted on 03/30/2005 1:41:10 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
Here's a guy who probably would do it right:


31 posted on 03/30/2005 1:41:40 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Buffalo Bob
OH, I thought he was talking about the illegals!!!

Shoulda known better.

32 posted on 03/30/2005 1:42:24 PM PST by marlon
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To: A CA Guy
Giant speakers facing Mexico playing Halloween spooky sounds full blast.
Might make them turn and run with that alone.

Attention Mexicans & Art Bell fans

A Chupacabra Alert is Now in Effect!

33 posted on 03/30/2005 1:45:27 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: thorshammer

Good luck guys. Give the rest of us a shout if you get into any trouble. I may not have been able to join you, but I'll sure as hell make time if MS-13 starts a fight.


34 posted on 03/30/2005 1:45:46 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: thorshammer
attract racist crackpots
vigilante violence
bloodshed in border watch project

Lets just add these to the MSM cliche pile of fear, such as:

quagmire
Arab street

35 posted on 03/30/2005 1:46:31 PM PST by kidd
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To: RightWhale
Another former resident of Tombstone:

This guy might have dealt with the whole situation a little differently

36 posted on 03/30/2005 1:46:53 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: thorshammer
"They are domestic terrorists that represent a danger to the country and could promote a major border conflict that will have serious ramifications and consequences," said Armando Navarro, a University of California-Riverside political science professor and coordinator of the National Alliance for Human Rights, made up mostly of Hispanic activists.

Hispanica Uber Alles, eh Armando? La Raza much, Mr. Navarro?

"They are domestic terrorists that represent a danger to the country and could promote a major border conflict that will have serious ramifications and consequences," said spodefly, an American citizen speaking of the millions of illegal aliens disregarding American laws, burdening law-abiding taxpayers with their social costs, and enabling the multi-billion dollar industries of people smuggling, document forgery, and identity theft.

37 posted on 03/30/2005 1:48:39 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: holymoly
Michael Nicley, chief of the U.S. Border Patrol's Tucson sector, said the volunteers are "not the kind of help the Border Patrol is asking for."

Nicley sounds like he's been bought and paid for by the drug cartels.

38 posted on 03/30/2005 1:49:13 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: cotton1706
They are merely undocumented border patrol agents.

Excellent!

39 posted on 03/30/2005 1:49:16 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: thorshammer
They are domestic terrorists that represent a danger to the country and could promote a major border conflict that will have serious ramifications...

Orwell award of the day

40 posted on 03/30/2005 1:49:24 PM PST by newsworthy
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