Has France ever REALLY been civilized? I mean, I guess certain elements have been, they certainly have been effete, but, they've pretty much constantly been in conflict since 1787 haven't they? Destroying images of God and pretending to be better than everyone? Can we help enjoying these arrogant poseurs getting their comeuppance?
The French have always been the houseguest that never leaves and never pays for anything.
Whether they're a civilization or not we'll leave to another day. But they lead civilized lives. They can generally go about their lives peaceably. They don't have to fear their doors being broken down in the middle of the night and being dragged off to a gulag. They don't need to worry where their next meal is coming from, nor do they have to hunt it down.
They live comfortable lives in a technologically advanced country that their forebears built, but they'd rather, through pride and spite, throw it away and live under muslim dominiation, was my main point.
France has a history of syphilisation.