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To: neverdem; Howlin; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Bommer; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...

No Dan, Republicans aren't suddenly dominated by evangelical Christians.

All that has happened is that the age old formula for getting elected was changed by two great men: President Bush and Karl Rove.

Prior to GWB and KR entering the national political scene, the common political wisdom was that to win the Presidency, you had to win at least one state of the great California/New York political power pair.

And to win either of those states meant that Presidential candidates had to appeal to the hyper-left-wing radicals that dominate the political machines in both states (e.g. gays, leftists, internationalists, unions, etc.).

But GWB and KR changed *all* of that. They said that you could win the Presidency WITHOUT WINNING New York or California.

Well, that changes everything. To win enough electoral votes for the Presidency without carrying California or New York means that you have to listen to what Joe Pickup has to say in Alabama and Kansas and Texas and Florida, et al., not what the same 200 liberal elites are gabbing about at cocktail parties in Manhattan and San Francisco.

And that's why the Republican Party of 2005 is both different as well as successful. Republicans own the House, control the Senate, hold the Presidency, occupy most state governorships, and dominate most state legislatures now.

By the way, we won't hold that much political power for long if we go back to the old days of competing with Democrats for kudos and sham articles spewed forth by the Manhattan cocktail circuit crowd.

...And *that* would be a tragedy, as the only way that we are going to see out-of-control judges reined in is if the Republican Party gains another 5 or so Senate seats while maintaining or gaining in all other categories. We are close to where we need to be; to retreat back to the days of playing nice to the cocktail and bathhouse crowd when we are *so* very, very close to taking back this great land would be a tragedy that might very well cost Freedom another 4 decades or more in purgatory.

9 posted on 03/30/2005 12:27:57 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
And to win either of those states meant that Presidential candidates had to appeal to the hyper-left-wing radicals that dominate the political machines in both states (e.g. gays, leftists, internationalists, unions, etc.).

I believe it is the et cetera that counts. Both Reagan and Al D'Amato won in 1980. Al D'Amato lost in 1998 by about 11 percent. Consider the effect of the Motor Voter Act and illegal immigration.

15 posted on 03/30/2005 12:56:11 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Southack

As usual, you are one of the rarified few astute enough to observe the real landscape of what happened in Election 2004: President GW Bush and Karl Rove. While many would LIKE to (or in the case of Danforth, claim they are afraid to) give credit to the "evangelicals" for this newer, stronger Republican party, this isn't the case at all. Conservatism is the fresh, progressive voice on the political scene today, while the former progressives, leftists, and so-called liberals are REALLY the stodgy reactionaries without new ideas or orthodoxy. Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 03/30/2005 4:31:55 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Have we become a society that allows a man to kill his wife by starvation instead of bullets?)
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To: Southack

By George (and Karl) I think you've got it!


27 posted on 03/30/2005 6:08:40 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Southack
This is an absolutely outstanding analysis. Thank you for keeping me on your ping list.

By the way, we won't hold that much political power for long if we go back to the old days of competing with Democrats for kudos and sham articles spewed forth by the Manhattan cocktail circuit crowd.

You are so on target I was wondering if you give "fire commands" to your Word.doc? Impressive.

Regards,

TS

34 posted on 03/30/2005 3:20:55 PM PST by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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