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When life is on the line
U.S. News and World Report ^ | 4/4/05 | Bernadine Healy

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:43:56 PM PST by vivabushchick

Terri Schiavo got her day in court--or rather her years in court--but that time was mostly spent on tugs of war over states' rights, separation of powers, and legal precedents, issues utterly irrelevant to her medical condition. And so she departs this world not in peace but in bitter turmoil among those she loved and with lingering uncertainty as to her state of mind. Her last in-depth neurological evaluation was back in 2002. At that time her parents, and the two doctors the court allowed them to choose, believed she had some minimal level of consciousness that enabled her to feel joy and sadness, comfort and pain. In her family's embrace, they were sure she would live a worthy life, however disabled. Her husband and his two chosen doctors saw the opposite: a human reduced to the level of a vegetable, living but in a persistent vegetative state, awake but unaware, with one of two EEG s being flat. What is troublesome is that the plug--or, to be precise, the feeding tube--was pulled without a fresh evaluation of her mental status. In fact, two weeks ago one of the most prominent neurologists at the 2002 hearing argued vehemently against convening a new independent panel of experts to re-examine her. In my conversations with him, he dismissed the idea of getting another electroencephalogram as "crazy."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bernadinehealy; disabled; evaluations; neurological; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; worthylife
This article is relevent in the fact that Bernadine Healy appeared this evening on MSN HardBall and made the case that Terri's neurological evaluations were based on old methods. A new test could possibly have been shown her to be disabled rather than in a PVS state.
1 posted on 03/29/2005 8:43:57 PM PST by vivabushchick
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To: vivabushchick
Bzzzzt. She is not 'departing'. She is being MURDERED.

with the acquiescence of U.S. News and World Report and the rest of the MSM.

2 posted on 03/29/2005 8:46:41 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: vivabushchick

Biographical info from the site:

"Bernadine Healy M.D., is a senior writer for U.S.News & World Report and writes the On Health column for the magazine. A Harvard- and Hopkins-trained physician, Healy is a past Director of the National Institutes of Health, where she started the Women's Health Initiative. She is currently a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and is a leader in patient care research and education."


3 posted on 03/29/2005 8:51:09 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Other bios say she was the first director of the NIH and formerly headed the Red Cross. I thought I recognized the name.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 8:54:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Diogenesis

I learned tonight that the method of putting her to death is too cruel to fit the definition of euthanasia. So murder it is.


5 posted on 03/29/2005 8:54:26 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: Diogenesis
Murder by starvation and dehydration. Something you wouldn't even do to a dog. I support the Schindler's efforts to seek out support from all avenues in order to save their daughter. Yes, even a snippet of reason coming from the dark side of MSN's Hardball may find it's way to these hard hearts.
6 posted on 03/29/2005 8:59:58 PM PST by vivabushchick ("Tour Free Iraq, courtesy USA Armed Forces ")
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To: thoughtomator

Judgenfuhrer Greer: "We are well aware that ordering death by starvation
is identical to the torture-penalty
delivered to the innocent trying to escape the Auschwitz, and other, Crematoria.
But you know what? I really get off on the suffering of innocents.
Attorney Felos gets off on it, too, and makes money from it.
And what's more he spoke to our god who told him, "You are more powerful than you realize.(*)
Imagine that. I get to sign his Motions to kill. I serve our god."

"


7 posted on 03/29/2005 9:01:19 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Thanks for adding this bio. The media can't question her credentials.
8 posted on 03/29/2005 9:10:54 PM PST by vivabushchick ("Tour Free Iraq, courtesy USA Armed Forces ")
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To: vivabushchick
As a rule, I do not pay attention to much of Greta's show on FOX, but tonight I kept an ear out specifically for mention of George Felos as I'd written to O'Reilly last night in response to his "there are no winners." I told him he was wrong - that there was one winner - George Felos. It appears he may have sloughed my email off to Greta, who interviewed Noah Bierman in regard to Felos' book. Bierman, of the Miami Herald, did little more than poorly promote Felos' book. He was not knowledgeable at all about Felos' spiritual beliefs and accepted the Schiavo attorney's statement as fact that the public was surely not interested in his spiritual beliefs. I would beg to differ.

I wrote the following to Greta (not that it will do a bit of good):

"Dear Greta,

I was very disappointed in the brief examination of George Felos and his spiritual beliefs on the show tonight. As a student of psychology, it has become very apparent to me that Mr. Felos has been the central figure in the Schiavo case all along, unfortunately above and beyond Terri Schiavo. To brush off his control of every aspect of this case with a brief discussion of his book by Noah Bierman of the Miami Herald, who obviously has no knowledge whatsoever of what George Felos believes or what his motives have been from the beginning, gives the appearance that FOX News has little interest in understanding the true implications of what this case is all about. It also ended up being nothing more than a cheap plug for Felos' book.

I would suggest to you that Mr. Felos has gone so far as to control Michael Schiavo's actions, as well as the actions and words of his family members to further his own purposes. He was being disingenuous when he said he did not think the public was interested in his spiritual beliefs. He knows full well that an examination of his beliefs and of the possibility that he exerted the type of control over the Schiavos that one would find in a cult leader with a God complex might jeopardize his case.

If you do not have the opportunity to read his book, then at the very least, read the reviews at the Amazon website: Then do the American public a service by asking FOX's panel of intelligent psychological and legal experts to discuss the impact Mr. Felos has had on this case above and beyond simply being the attorney for Michael Schiavo. As one reviewer wrote, "As Litigation as Spiritual Practice demonstrates, Mr. Felos is an egomaniacal visionary bent on death as the ultimate demonstration of his messianic powers. Judging from this book, Felos appears to be clinically delusional." I agree."

9 posted on 03/29/2005 9:24:14 PM PST by sageb1
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To: thoughtomator
I learned tonight that the method of putting her to death is too cruel to fit the definition of euthanasia. So murder it is.

So she wouldn't have the right to go on a hunger strike?

10 posted on 03/29/2005 9:33:41 PM PST by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Diogenesis
Bzzzzt. She is not 'departing'. She is being MURDERED. with the acquiescence of U.S. News and World Report and the rest of the MSM.

Exactly!! There is a huge difference in pulling a feeding tube and by court order refusing a disabled person nutrition by mouth.

What law give this judge or anyone for that matter the authority to refuse food and water to a person?

If the judge wants her to die he should at least make it humane....drag her out in the street and shoot her. Murder is murder do the humane thing and make it quick. The coward judge doesn't want to be that overt about his atrocity. He's satisfied to inflict cruel and unusual punishment on an innocent helpless woman, something he couldn't do constitutionally to a criminal.

Think about it?

11 posted on 03/29/2005 9:34:48 PM PST by sandmanbr
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To: vivabushchick

I never imagined that I would hear the United States Government using the Nurenberg Defense. (We must follow court orders) I wonder if Saddam and his followers will be permitted the same defense?


12 posted on 03/29/2005 9:34:53 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9

Fed Appeals CT will let Shiavo's parents petition for rehearing?????? FOX News alert


13 posted on 03/29/2005 9:40:20 PM PST by sageb1
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To: Cicero
Other bios say she was the first director of the NIH

She may have been a director or NIH, but certainly not "the first."

14 posted on 03/30/2005 12:30:14 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Gondring

If she did, they'd stick her in a mental institution. But because she can't say a thing, hubbie gets to call the hunger strike for her. They should put him in the loonie bin.


15 posted on 03/30/2005 12:36:36 AM PST by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88

In other words, you're saying that our country no longer cares about its citizens' right to liberty...it's already over the line...right?


16 posted on 03/30/2005 4:03:00 AM PST by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: sageb1

Felo's has more to gain than anyone in this matter. At the same time because of Terri's plight, Felo's and the rest of the death culture has been exposed.


17 posted on 03/30/2005 11:10:05 AM PST by vivabushchick ("Tour Free Iraq, courtesy USA Armed Forces ")
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