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'Something is terribly, terribly wrong': Victor Davis Hanson on immigration "seeming insanity"
WORLD ^ | 4/2/05 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 03/29/2005 4:42:42 PM PST by Caleb1411

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To: antoninartaud

As long as you understand that some of us believe there is a real problem with the Mexican invasion that has nothing to do with racism. When the numbers were relatively small and they could be assimilated (just like my German ancestors got assimilated), I didn't have a problem. But it is now a problem, I don't care to be drowned by Bush's good intentions.


42 posted on 03/30/2005 10:26:43 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Caleb1411
We need enforcement of old laws, not creation of new ones. Attitudes about legality need to revert back to the pre-1960s and 1970s when immigration was synonymous with integration and assimilation.

Worth repeating.

44 posted on 03/30/2005 11:45:57 AM PST by nosofar
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To: Caleb1411
In all public discourse and debate, when the racial chauvinist screams "racist" in lieu of logic, we all need to quit recoiling or apologizing, and instead rejoin with "Shame on you, shame, shame, shame for polluting legitimate discussion with race."

Crying 'racist' at the drop of a hat just because you can't think of any good counter-arguments devalues the word which allows those who are truly racist are allowed to ignore the accusation.

45 posted on 03/30/2005 11:50:00 AM PST by nosofar
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To: antoninartaud
I'd much rather hire hard-working Mexicans any day, much as I am against the invasion, I understand why people hire them.

Personally, I have no problem with Mexicans immigrating. My beef is that 1) they apparenly break the law in most cases to do so and 2) they don't seem to assimilate into society as much as I think they should, a lot of which is our fault. I'm sure there are clueless fruitcakes who would call this 'racist'.

46 posted on 03/30/2005 11:58:50 AM PST by nosofar
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To: DumpsterDiver

bttt


47 posted on 03/30/2005 12:00:09 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Caleb1411; 11th_VA; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY WRONG . .

(Here is an honest interview with honest, attainable and in dire need of answers about the illegal alien invasion - CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?)

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WORLD: You note that "the really perilous course lies in preserving the status quo and institutionalizing our past failed policies: open borders, unlimited immigration, dependence on cheap and illegal labor, obsequious deference to Mexico City, erosion of legal statutes, multiculturalism in our schools, and a general breakdown in the old assimilations model." You point out that we could readily end up with "a permanent class of modern helots who do the dirty jobs for their Spartan overlords." How do we avoid that? What should a new immigration law emphasize?

HANSON: We need enforcement of old laws, not creation of new ones. Attitudes about legality need to revert back to the pre-1960s and 1970s when immigration was synonymous with integration and assimilation. We need to dispense with the flawed idea of multiculturalism and return to the ideal of multiracialism under the aegis of a unifying Western civilization. There should be no more public tolerance for the racism of an organization like MECHA [a Spanish acronym for the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan] with its slogans like "a bronze state for a bronze people" or "everything for the race, nothing for those outside the race." Why in 2005 there is still a movement like La Raza ("the race") baffles the mind; would we stand one minute for a "Volk" movement of whites that could only be racist in defining people by how they look rather than what they do?


49 posted on 08/11/2005 8:15:53 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Caleb1411

BUMP!


50 posted on 08/11/2005 8:21:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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VDH Ping...

51 posted on 08/11/2005 8:29:02 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Semper Fi ~)
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52 posted on 08/11/2005 8:54:31 AM PDT by devolve (------- http://tinypic.com/a47v9u.gif --American Immigration ---- Good-Bad-or-Ugly?-- -)
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To: HiJinx

Bump


53 posted on 08/11/2005 9:05:14 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Happy2BMe; gubamyster; HiJinx
HANSON: I hope so. With perhaps as many as 20 million illegal aliens from Mexico, and the immigration laws in shreds, we are reaching a state of crisis. In a multiracial society such as our own, are we to tell the Filipino, the Sikh, the Korean, or the Haitian, "Stand in line, come legally, wait your turn—unless you come across the Mexican border and break the law in doing so." So, we need to return to what is known to work: measured and legal immigration, strict enforcement of our existing laws, stiff employer sanctions, an end to bilingual documents and interpreters, and ethnic chauvinism, English immersion—in other words, an end to the disastrous salad bowl and a return to the successful melting pot.
55 posted on 08/11/2005 9:06:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bravo! Hanson points out the sheer hypocrisy of racists accusing everyone else of racism. Who would get behind me if I sported the slogans "A White State for a White People" or "Everything for the Whites, nothing for those outside the race"? Like a quarter million kids, the vast majority of them Caucasian, died during WWII for nothing.

As I've said before, "Hispanics" aren't a race at all - merely a made-up conglomerate lumped together for the purpose of obtaining victimhood status from the Federal government.

56 posted on 08/11/2005 9:12:21 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Nationalist, protectionist troglodyte who still believes America First.)
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To: junta
I would tend to believe our president and Mexico's president over a college professor.

How can you even begin to reply to such a statement?

57 posted on 08/11/2005 9:12:51 AM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: Caleb1411
So, we need to return to what is known to work: measured and legal immigration, strict enforcement of our existing laws, stiff employer sanctions, an end to bilingual documents and interpreters, and ethnic chauvinism, English immersion—in other words, an end to the disastrous salad bowl and a return to the successful melting pot.

YES!!!!!
58 posted on 08/11/2005 9:19:16 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: HiJinx

Victor David Hanson is the man!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


59 posted on 08/11/2005 9:33:56 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: WayneM

Roger that ~ hell, you don't have to believe anyone, just use common sense.

I'm a GWB supporter ~ he's just not protecting our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders ~ it's that simple!


60 posted on 08/11/2005 9:44:54 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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