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To: ms_68
"Those scum (szmalcownicy) were usually former criminal prisoners in Independent free Poland sentenced for many years for murderers, rapes, or so. "

Anyway, "shmalts" (chicken fat) means nothing in Polish, and is surely no "chicken fat", you Russian liar! "Chicken fat" is "Kurzy tluszcz" - check it in a dictionary, you liar!!!

First of all stop calling me "Russian Liar". I have only given you a testimony written by an author WHO ACTUALLY LIVED THROUGH THIS. Here, B. Goldstein, a Holocaust and Warsaw Ghetto survivor talks about hundreds of ordinary Poles in Warsaw including merchants, former Policemen, schoolmates, etc. who knew their Jewish neighbors and buddies before the War and knew who was a Jew living as Polish Catholic. These (szmalcownicy) or (shmaltsovniki) chose to extort the money from them or turn them in to Germans. So you are telling me they were all in prison before the war and then all simultaneously got out when German Nazis arrived ? As soon as they got out, they started turning in their former neighbors simultaneously ? Former Policemen, merchants, students, etc--all of them were just an ordinary low life rapists and murderers before WWII ? DON'T GIVE ME THIS CRAP, PLEASE ! How many serial rapists and murderers worked in Polish Police before WWII then ? Here is another publication about what happened to Jewish Community of a village "Konstantinow nad Bugiem". You gonna tell me that this is a lie too ?

On September 1939 when the Germans evacuated the town, and the Soviets entered for a brief period, the Jewish population count was 1,200 (200 households). When the Soviets pulled out to the east, some Jews moved with them eastward to Soviet occupied Polish territory. In the winter of 1940 some families returned from the Soviet occupied territory to German occupied Konstantynow. They were captured by the local Polish police and handed over to the Gestapo, tortured and deported to the Neuengamme Concentration Camp just west of Hamburg [coordinates 5333 1000] in Germany where they were murdered. A Judenrat – Jewish Council was nominated in Konstantynow by the Germans in the summer of 1940. The Judenrat was headed by Mosze Roizman and Rabbi Jacob Szajnkind. Towards the end of 1940, a Ghetto was erected and the Konstantynow Jews were forced into hard labor in the nearby Sieberg Estate, about 1 km south of the Konstantynow market place, and in the village of Serpelice, [coordinates 5217 2303] 20km NNW of Konstantynow, on the river Bug. The Jewish hard forced laborers were exposed to severe most cruel beatings from the Polish local Policemen and the Nazi SS guards. The winter of 1942 was exceptionally severe. The bitter frost, the hunger and the hard labor cost a high toll of deaths. Gestapo personnel visited the Ghetto frequently and always left behind them murdered Jews. A typhus plague spread in the Konstantynow Ghetto, causing many victims as well. On May 1942, all Jewish males age 15 to 60 were summoned to the market square (Rynek). The local Polish policemen and the Gestapo herded the Jews by beating, stabbing and abusing them, to the sheer enjoyment of the local Poles and the Gestapo. Thereafter 100 able Jewish males were selected and sent to a hard labor camp in Rogozinica, for slave labor in drainage diggings and forestation.

I trust far more the Warsaw Ghetto Survivor and author B. Goldstein and other well researched works by Holocaust Survivors and other researchers thann such pseudo-patriotic demagogues like you. Your type always disgust me--whether you Polish, Russian, Ukrainian or anybody else. I hate when anyone tries to deny the historical facts to make their ethnic or national groups or countries look impeccable. I'm not denying or downplaying crimes committed by Russia/Soviet Union in Poland or anywhere else (and I'm very angry when jb6 or anyone else tries to do that), and I really HATE when others deny the crimes committed by the members of their ethnic or national groups and scream that this is an "Attack" on their cherished ethnicities and/or countries.

158 posted on 04/05/2005 11:29:27 AM PDT by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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