Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Outsourcing of math tutoring decried
signonsandiego ^ | March 28, 2005

Posted on 03/28/2005 9:58:01 PM PST by jb6

The failure of some American students to master math is adding up to big bucks for tutoring companies in India.

A little-known provision in the federal No Child Left Behind law allows federal taxpayer dollars to flow to online tutoring services several time zones away in places such as New Delhi and Calcutta. Those services typically contract with U.S. tutoring companies, which provide them the computer software and set the lesson plan.

Advertisement

Few would begrudge using public money to give struggling students extra help. But some U.S. teachers decry the offering of instruction to Indian firms that pay full-time, college-educated tutors as little as $230 a month. They also complain that while the law requires teachers to be fully certified, private tutors have no such requirement.

"We are seeing teachers being laid off," said Nancy Van Meter of the American Federation of Teachers. "Given that situation, it's hard to understand why our tax dollars are being used to create jobs overseas."

The Indian tutoring companies say they are simply filling a market void by providing after-hours services with which some U.S. teachers don't want to be bothered, said Anirudh Phadke, an official with New Delhi-based Career Launcher. The firm, which also serves students in the Middle East, tutors about 1,500 American students in math alone.

"We have a lot of good teachers over here willing to do this full time," Phadke said during a telephone interview. "It's a good opportunity."

Because well-known online tutoring services, such as Sylvan Online, subcontract with firms such as Career Launcher, it's hard to say how many students are spending their money on Indian tutors.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: education; govwatch; india; nclb; outsourcing; teaching; tutors

1 posted on 03/28/2005 9:58:02 PM PST by jb6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: jb6

I am in favor of this type of outsourcing.
Indians are well educated, great at math, and good teachers.
If they can do it far more cheaply and effectively, why not.
Arbitrarily forbidding this would only hurt our children.

If it strikes some fear into the teachers unions, perhaps that is healthy.


2 posted on 03/28/2005 10:08:31 PM PST by Mount Athos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jb6

We're in trouble when our competition is not only teaching us math, but they're doing it in a second language to them.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 10:09:54 PM PST by SteveMcKing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SteveMcKing

And it's tax monies that are paying for this!


4 posted on 03/28/2005 10:12:29 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mount Athos

Why not outsource Teaching (why should any of those jobs remain safe), now if we could only find away to outsource Lawyers and Judges (they’d never let it happen), that would be grand.


5 posted on 03/28/2005 10:16:17 PM PST by GoShow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: jb6

There are definately no extra math teachers in the US. Testing shows that many teachers can't do the math much less teach it.


6 posted on 03/28/2005 10:17:15 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Comment #7 Removed by Moderator

To: ClaireSolt

I think you're right. When I took Calculus in college, I was really pleased at first because I had a teaching assistant who was American. Turned out she was a blithering idiot. I ended up seeking out the TA from Madagascar. His English wasn't great, but he sure knew his math.


8 posted on 03/28/2005 11:05:26 PM PST by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GoShow; A. Pole; ninenot; neutrino

Actually a lot of law work is outsourced, as are clerks, accountants, x-ray technicians and economists. There are even talks of flying heart patients to beautiful, healthy and disease free India for major surgery. What joy and all we need to do is continue to print debt till the whole thing collapses.


9 posted on 03/28/2005 11:14:08 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Huntress

My homeschooled son (16, Calculus) is a math tutor for some Jr/Sr boys from the public high school. The curriculum they use in the public schools is a big problem. If they used the Saxon series, U.S. kids would be ready to re-take the world lead in math in less than 20 years.


10 posted on 03/28/2005 11:15:29 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: ClaireSolt
Too many parents don't even have a handle on what their kids are doing in school; let alone complete homework. Too many parents think kids should not be given homework.

Biggest problem in education today is the destruction of the American family, not the teachers.

11 posted on 03/28/2005 11:16:33 PM PST by Eska
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Mount Athos

I am in favor of this outsourcing as well. Its obvious our own teachers and public teaching system are incompetent. So as I like to say if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. If the teachers union can't teach, its time for them to get out of the way.


12 posted on 03/28/2005 11:23:39 PM PST by ran15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: hellbilly

"Another contributing factor is the time spent during elementary school learning about Heather's Two Mommies, Malcolm X, environmentalism, tsunami victims' need of temporary shelter, english as a second language, Islam, the good of wealth redistribution, etc. to actually LEARN something useful."

Lol very true, and the good of abortions as children enslave women in the male dominated capitalist system.


13 posted on 03/28/2005 11:27:51 PM PST by ran15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: jb6
Thanks for the ping, jb6.

college-educated tutors as little as $230 a month.

Ah, yes, India - helping lower the entire wage structure. Ultimately, those who crow with delight as other Americans are injured will get to share the experience.

14 posted on 03/29/2005 3:15:28 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

Comment #15 Removed by Moderator

To: do_u_have_any_news; neutrino

The point isn't that Indians will live a modern life, the point is Americans are denied jobs in America with their own tax payers monies. This in turn lowers tax revenues which raises our taxes and in the long run, causes us to buy less of everything including Indian/Chinese goods/services. Short term greed to grab a huge portion of the US market will lead to long term disaster for everyone.


16 posted on 03/29/2005 7:40:40 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Eska

I think blaming the parents is bogus for two reasons. First, in my own teaching career I never ran into parents who did not want the best for their children. In fact, I am convinced that they make the best judges of what their children need. Second, public education in the US was built on a model developed in New York city with immigrant children whose parents were poor, ignorant, and didn't speak the language. Those schools taught the children everything about being American including English, hygine, manners, and how to tie their shoes. Today teachers make excuses, but testing is getting them to do their jobs because they do not want to be embarassed.


17 posted on 03/29/2005 1:00:44 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: GoShow

LOL, we'd get our kids taught well in exchange for garbage.

win-win!


18 posted on 03/29/2005 1:04:38 PM PST by Constantine XIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson