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Posted on 03/28/2005 6:48:57 PM PST by Keyes2000mt
Governor Jeb Bush, R-Florida, was pained to say he had done all he could do legally. Bush said he wouldn't 'break the law' to save Terry Schiavo. Bush wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't because he is just obeying orders. The Governor of Florida follows orders from a Pinellas County Circuit judge. In matters of life and death. In issues of cruel and unusual punishment. When due process is denied.
The Constitution of Florida says The People are sovereign — like kings. The People of Florida vest the supreme executive authority in a governor in their constitution. Unless, apparently, a judge orders otherwise. In fact a Circuit Judge, whose limited jurisdiction is listed in the Florida constitution can order every administrative and police official across the state of Florida to 'freeze, boy. Do as I order, hear?' So, when a child takes water to a starving, dehydrated disabled woman, the kid is arrested by deputies. They're just following orders.
Good Germans followed judges and other officials in obeying the law of the land 60 years ago. Good Americans today, it appears, also obey the law of the land. The law of the land is whatever a black robed priest-king, called judge, says it is. Ask Gov. Bush where in the Florida Code a Circuit judge can deny a woman food and water unto death. Yet, clearly, it's a violation of Chapter 825 of the Florida Criminal Code to abuse and neglect a disabled person, Terry Schiavo, by starvation.
The Florida Constitution states The People have the God-given right to life for all individuals — regardless of disability. Unless an elected lawyer in costume, a judge, says the law of the land is to kill a brain-damaged woman slowly. The abuse of a disabled person by failing to provide nutrition is a felony in Florida. Unless, of course, a judge says 'follow my orders' and won't permit her family to take a picture of her suffering.
Lawful Germans just followed the orders of Nazi Human Secularists. Loyal Russian, Chinese, North Korean, Eastern European, Cambodian, and Vietnamese carried out the orders of Communist Human Secularists. Americans serve Liberal Human Secularism if a judge orders. If a judge ordered a black man lynched, it would be the law of the land.
Why not? Gov. Bush would be so sorry, really, but couldn't do anything if a judge gave an order. But, a judge would never do such a thing, right? The difference between lynching and abortion is proportion and status. One black man dies or 40 million babies die (so far) on the word and writ of robed masters. No one in the executive or legislature used their constitutional powers. Everyone just followed orders.
Abortion was a state medical-legal issue, but five judges out of nine on the U.S. Supreme Court made up a right to privacy. It's written in the U.S. Constitution like the requirement to starve Terry Schiavo to death is in the Florida Constitution and Code. Look and see.
March 28th, 2005 we will see if the U.S. Congress which ordered a subpoena for Terry Schiavo and a new Federal judicial review of her case will follow the orders of Pinellas County Circuit judge. George Greer dismissed the subpoena, backed by the U.S. Code — it's the law, with a wave of his hand. Just as he denied Terry Schiavo her freedom of religion to receive communion, until her adulterous husband — and Greer's campaign contributor — relented for Easter. The Federal judges ignored the law the U.S. Congress passed and the President of the U.S. signed for new look at the case. They rule.
The elected Federal Legislature and Executive is having their bluff called. Attorney General Janet Reno sent in armed men against a Florida court order to take Elian Gonzales from his dead mother's wishes and loving family to return the child to communist slavery in Cuba. Perhaps, Republicans in power just posture.
Reasonable people and unreasonable people, sometimes known as lawyers, disagree on Gov. Bush using his executive power. They fear a Constitutional crisis. Too late. Judge Greer started the crisis, this Dred Scot, with his judicial tyranny. The judge would hold the Governor in contempt. It would take an Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln to be so bold. But, Jeb Bush, nice guy that he is, well-meaning man, and good Catholic, is no 'Old Hickory' and no "Honest Abe'. Jeb, like every defendant at Nuremburg save one, pleads 'not guilty' because he is just following orders.
I stand with you, Judith Anne. So do a lot of others.
It's a very good analogy.
I advocated, right here, that a governor of a State affected by the recent US Supreme Court decision should do precisely that-i.e., issue a writ of execution, have the convicted murderer executed, and then let the chips fall.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
I haven't suggested that citizens revolt. Don't put words in my mouth. I asked why people like you think that politicians should defy a court order yet you yourself would never do so. Do you understand the question? Can you answer it?
People like you are a problem. Your challenges aim to promote lawlessness not preserve it.
You are the one promoting lawlessness. You advocate that politicians defy court orders.
About the only good thing to come out of this is that we now know that Jeb Bush, who got slapped down by a freaking county probate judge is NOT "Presidential timber". It's good to find that out NOW rather than later. But it's a shame we had to find out at the cost of someone's life.
Tick....
The punctuation marks gave that one away; I've seen that at DU.
We are being 'visited' by those from the dark side.
I know some are real conservatives with a political death wish, but they're being egged on by trolls, and may not be bright enough to realize it.
I figure you can dismiss three out of four of these posts as utter nonsense........
Eventually, it might settle into a reasonable discussion with legitimate differences of opinion, but right now, it's Twilight Zone theme time..............hear it?? :o)
Governor Jeb Bush is not the problem, Michael is.
You want to sacrifice the right to life and the Constitution for the good of the Party? Keep your party then. I haven't had any plans for abandoning it up to now but if limpwrists like you and Jeb are the Republican future who wants a part of that?
He better watch out if he has. In Germany they killed the disabled first and then went after the mentally ill.
All three branches of government ought to have as their highest priority the protection of human life. No one should be elected or appointed to any of these positions who does not espouse this principle, and those who, by word and deed, seek to exterminate the innocent ought to be removed, forcibly or otherwise, from office.
I know you're not here as much as some of us, so I'll tell you it's more like one PER HOUR.
Hey, I know... There's nothing the Governor of Florida can do.
Where's a strong county probate judge when you need one?
You are a brand new newbie. You joined today because of Terri.
I have NO idea what you think President Bush or Governor Bush should do that they have not already done. If you are insisting that they use overwhelming force the way Janet Reno did when she took Elian, then you likely do not belong here.
You think you're supporting the Constitution by siding with the Democrat Underground? Pathetic.
I'm not one of those who expects another American to fix this for me. Get back to me when you're posting from the Pinellas County jail, big shot.
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Lawlessness Is Not the Answer
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
March 28, 2005
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RUSH: Here's John in Ada, Ohio, as we go to the phones. Welcome, sir. Nice to have you with us.
CALLER: Rush, Ohio Northern University law school dittos. My name is John. I'm a 25-year-old conservative Republican. I'm going to get straight to my point. You've made it very clear in your points over the past couple minutes, that in 2000 with the Elian Gonzales case, Janet Reno did it wrong. In a perfect world, with the Schiavo case, I want to know specifically what you would have liked to see Jeb Bush do under his executive color of power in this case.
RUSH: I'm a rule-of-law guy. I don't believe in openly defying courts. I believe in taking action to change them. I believe in taking action within the Constitution to change the judiciary as Congress clearly has the will to do. They are our elected officials. We have three coequal branches and none of them are supreme over the other two. The judiciary is acting as though it is supreme, and the members of the judiciary act appalled that anybody would question what they do. But I'm not for lawlessness; I don't care what the law is. That's not the way to change the law. I know a lot of people disagree with me, "Rush, we're talking about a woman's life here, throw out the law, cast it aside, we've got to save a woman's life." We're not Janet Reno. We're not Greg Craig. We're not the Clinton administration justice department. I'm not. I don't think that that's the way to go about this. That's just me. You said in a perfect world. I don't know what that means because we don't have a perfect world. I guess in a perfect world, the majority of people in this country and the courts would be very uncomfortable here with the fact that government is actually killing a citizen. "No, Rush, no, Rush, no, Rush…" The judiciary is part of government, folks. The judicial branch is part of government. I don't advocate lawlessness. That's not the way to make long-term changes that will have substance and a foundation and have a chance at lasting.
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RUSH: Folks, in a perfect world, when Congress subpoenaed the witnesses, including Terri Schiavo, the Florida State trial court would have complied with the rule of law in a perfect world. When Congress passed a bill urging de novo or a new review of Schiavo's due-process rights under the Fourteenth Amendment, some federal court somewhere would have done just that, in a perfect world. They weren't ordered to do it. Let's be blunt, they were asked to consider it. Now, they turned it down. You ask what in a perfect world what would have happened? In a perfect world, the cooperation between the branches would have worked as designed and intended without one of the branches usurping authority here and acting supreme, which is what did happen.
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