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American Nurses Association Statement on the Terri Schiavo Case
American Nurses Association press release ^ | March 23, 2005 | Barbara B. Blakeney

Posted on 03/28/2005 3:52:07 PM PST by LauraJean

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To: LauraJean
That's all fine and dandy except Terri wasn't at the end of her life until they started starving her.

If this ignorant person represents the quality of nurses out there, be very afraid folks, very afraid.

61 posted on 03/28/2005 4:57:01 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: mlmr
The ANA has been an embarrasement to nursing for more than twenty years.

Actually, it's been a lot longer than twenty years. Back in 1960, when I graduated from nursing school, I was already aware of their bias--although at the time, I don't think the word "liberal" was so much in use then. I certainly never joined them!

62 posted on 03/28/2005 4:59:38 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: SelmaLee

Ditto's. All the liturature that comes to my house goes in the trash.


63 posted on 03/28/2005 4:59:40 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
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To: LauraJean

I've been a nurse for 18 years and have never been a member of this group. It does not speak for me.


64 posted on 03/28/2005 5:00:26 PM PST by BizzeeMom ("We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love" Bl. Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: Earthdweller
It is unfortunate that Terri Schiavo has now become the symbol of so many political agendas.

MSNBC Countdown will have a special now on all that are using this for their agenda, including insurance companies.

65 posted on 03/28/2005 5:00:52 PM PST by stopem
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To: LauraJean

This is why I do not belong. Their own organization says nothing about the contradictory reports of the nurses. This is why I am content ot be a floor monkey-that is nursing.

I call them "heeled nurses." Once they get out of the scrubs with a desk job, wear street clothes and heels, they become butt sniffers like everyone else.

You can pick the heeled-wanna-be's out of every group of student nurses...they are they ones who think being up to their elbows in poop are beneath them and try to call the "lowly" LPN's or CNA's. They are the ones that never last.

But in the interest of honesty, there have been a few heeled nurses in my career that will go to the mat for us floor monkeys. But they are also the ones who miss being knee deep in poop.



66 posted on 03/28/2005 5:01:35 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Ethrane

I think I read where the president of the AMA came out against the discontinuation of tube feedings. I may be wrong.


67 posted on 03/28/2005 5:02:30 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LauraJean
raises complex and emotional issues about the end of life. The American Nurses Association (ANA) recognizes the difficulty of the situation.

Whenever a liberal wants to do something evil, he always prefaces his action by saying that the situation is "complex" and "difficult." Alternatively, "there are no simple answers," or "there's no black and white."

Sorry, there is some pretty basic black and white here. Nurses are meant to care for people, not kill them.

68 posted on 03/28/2005 5:05:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LauraJean
Filled with all those trendy words like "end of life choices" and stepping delicately around the fact that we are denying something as basic as water to a disabled human being, with police and swat teams on site to make sure it is accomplished.

I am ready to move.

69 posted on 03/28/2005 5:06:24 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: LauraJean; cherry
I don't think this person read the details of Terri's case.

I don't agree with this at all. If Nursing is going to turn into Euthanasia, I want no part of it. I will bet you some nurses will leave the profession over this.

I can't imagine what it would be like to watch Terri's mom and family in the room watching her starve and dehydrate and not be even be able to put ice chips on her mouth and have a cop in the room watching their every move.

I've heard that the cop in the room will get right in their face and lean over Terri and gawk to make sure that they can't put one drop of moisture on her dry cracked lips. I also heard that the cop had his hands on the priest's hands while he gave her wine, just to make sure she didn't get more than one drop of wine.

This whole thing makes me sick. I guess Felos is going around threatening all the nurses that had contact with Terri in the past, not to talk about MS or they'll be sued/ lose their jobs. Nice. It's not like nursing isn't a tough enough job anyway. Nurses are not lining up around to block to work in Convalescent hospitals or Hospice care either. This is just going to add to the problem.

HERE (post 4366) is a description of how patients and their families are to be cared for.

PING to Cherry

70 posted on 03/28/2005 5:10:46 PM PST by Pajamajan (And if God will send His angels, and if God will send a sign, will everything be alright? Pray4Terri)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

lol I have never been a nurse, but I have worked as a psych tech, drug rehab tech and nurses aid.
I have sure been knee deep in poop many times.
I have many friends in the nursing profession and I know how hard they work.

I remember one time after a very hard day at the nursing home I turned to my husband and said I expected just to collapse one day and they could just put me out of my misery by rolling a wheel chair over me.
I guess according to the ANA he would have a right to deprive me of food and drink since he heard me say I didn't want to live.


71 posted on 03/28/2005 5:11:40 PM PST by LauraJean (sometimes I win sometimes I donate to the equine benevolent society)
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To: stopem
There is a large movement a foot to try to bring nurses over to the left.

They have already unionized California.

People are already starting to make comments about Nurses on the right like the Govenator.

This is unfortunate because most nurses I know don't want this.

Wouldn't that be swell to have the left devour our Nurses like they did the Teachers?

This is a HUGE attempt by the left and the left leaning (stink'in) ANA to make the public think that nurses are lefties.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

72 posted on 03/28/2005 5:14:36 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: LauraJean

"It is unfortunate that Terri Schiavo has now become the symbol of so many political agendas."

It's unfortunate that Terri Schiavo has become the symbol of the ANA's political agenda. Glad to know this is where they stand, so when I graduate from nursing school I'll be sure to NOT join.


73 posted on 03/28/2005 5:15:44 PM PST by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

I was going to ask you to thank your wife for her opinion that you had posted further up in this thread, and then thought - no, that's too personal - not in the spirit of the thread - but since you just "tooted her horn" let me add a "ditto." She sounds like the real deal. I have been so disheartened to hear some "nurses" call talk shows who have no problem with what is being done to Terri.




I want everyone who uses insulin, or a nebulizer or home oxygen or a wheelchair or needs dialysis three times a week, etc to consider that they are now existing in a world where those items are considered extraordinary, and can be withheld.


74 posted on 03/28/2005 5:20:01 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: Pajamajan

Nurses are not lining up around to block to work in Convalescent hospitals or Hospice care either. This is just going to add to the problem.


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For such a long time I wondered why we never heard of a single nurse complaining about the whole Schiavo situation in their hospice, and finally realized that those nurses who are still there have come to terms with the orders and approach of MS and his lawyers. Those who could not tolerate the care being given to Terri have probably moved to other jobs.


It is so unnatural for nurses or an institution to a) let a family member call the shots to the extent that MS has done and b) stand by and watch cruelty being condoned. The whole scene inside that hospice must be rotten. And the responsibility for the poisonous air has been transferred to Terri - as in "we wouldn't be working in this terrible environment if she wasn't here."
I can only imagine the complex emotions


75 posted on 03/28/2005 5:29:32 PM PST by maica (Ask a Deathocrat: "When did you decide to support death always - except for condemned criminals?")
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To: LauraJean
E-mail that I just sent to ethics@ana.org

I was shocked to see the position that you have taken in the Terri Schiavo case.

Michael Schiavo has a common law wife with two children. He also inherits hundreds of thousands of dollars if Terri dies. These two key facts alone should have been sufficient for the ANA at a minimum to take a neutral position in the case or to err on the side of life for Terri.

I also note the cheap political shot taken at President Bush. While I can understand that you're upset that Sen. Kerry lost last year, this is not an issue for cheap political theater.

My sister, my mother, and my stepmother are all nurses. I will be asking them to terminate all association with your group.

Sincerely,

XXXXXX

Dallas, Texas

76 posted on 03/28/2005 5:30:55 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: maica
".. not in the spirit of the thread - but since you just "tooted her horn" let me add a "ditto.":

..Furthermore, let me add that her daughter and my stepdaughter is also an LPN who is caring for severely disabled children (autism, cerebral palsy, and many terrible afflictions some natural many parent induced; it's God awful what parents can do). A very large percentage are wards of the state and a very large percentage are on real life supporting treatments like insulin, nebulizers, vents , etc.
My step-daughter called her mom in distress when she looked into this Schiavo situation and viewed Terri on videotape. NEEEDLESS TO SAY, I'M MIGHTY PROUD OF HER TOO AT THE AGE (23) WHEN MANY OF HER PEERS ARE BLINDLY FOLLOWING ALONG.

God be with these children.
77 posted on 03/28/2005 5:31:49 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
She left a hospice job when they no longer fullfilled their promise of "not doing anything to hasten death."

You're right to be proud. My RN wife - now at two decades of giving geriatric care - would blow a fuse too. They may not all be angels, but most of the nurses we know (and all the ones we would associate with) are far, far better than this ANA statement would make them out to be.

78 posted on 03/28/2005 5:34:24 PM PST by niteowl77
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To: LauraJean

I know a VP of Nursing. I was told a number of stories about this particular nurses organization....and their unionization and contract negotiation strategies. Go to their website and check it out.

They are a liberal activist group with strong ties to organized labor and miscellaneous left causes.

I wouldn't expect any different from this group.


79 posted on 03/28/2005 5:39:33 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: LauraJean
This mealy mouth non stance reminds me of one old saying of Thomas Jefferson.

One man with a courage is a majority.

80 posted on 03/28/2005 5:42:55 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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