Posted on 03/28/2005 1:42:09 PM PST by eartotheground
Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D., District Chief Medical Examiner 10900 Ulmerton Rd., Largo FL 33778 Telephone #. (727) 582-6800 Fax # (727) 582-6820 mailto:wpellan@co.pinellas.fl.us
Dear Dr. Thogmartin:
When Terri Schiavo dies, the potential exists that a crime will be covered up by her planned cremation without autopsy. That potential crime is NOT the issue at the center of the present controversy, but the yet unsubstantiated allegation that an assault led to her condition in the first place.
It has been reported in the press that Michael Schiavo intends to cremate Terri Schiavo immediately upon her death.
According to the Medical Examiner's department policy posted at: http://www.co.pinellas.fl.us/forensics/policy/policystatement.htm#CA , the medical examiner must approve or deny all such requests.
The attending physician in Terri Schiavo's case has a history of 5 NPDB reported malpractice cases. There is an open quesiton of what led to her original "event".
Please disallow the cremation until the medical examiner's office can perform an appropriate investigation and/or postmortem examination to determine both the immediate cause of death AND the proximate cause of death, including the search for any injuries from the past consistent with a potential crime.
Despite the currently accepted rationale for her initial “event”, evidence on postmortem examination may reveal that Terri Schiavo was the victim of a crime many years ago.
Judge Greer has not allowed an MRI or PET Scan. PET scans are of no value post mortem, but MRI may have some limited benefit, in addition to the physical autopsy, particularly for small, old injuries to ligaments and muscles that would be consistent with a trauma that occurred due to a crime (e.g. strangulation or abuse) if one had occurred.
If there are perpetrators of a crime covering something up, they will not want such an examination done. They will be afraid of justice.
Please act now to assure no authorization is given for cremation without a proper investigation and autopsy to address these issues.
Sincerely,
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Sarcasm aside, neither Jeb or George will want to have an autopsy as it could prove they made the wrong decision. Their legacy is toast. This is an issue that won't be forgotten. It's on par with abortion. This is the war between the statists who prefer to kill those in their way versus those who believe life and liberty are inalienable rights.
406.11 Examinations, investigations, and autopsies.--(1) In any of the following circumstances involving the death of a human being, the medical examiner of the district in which the death occurred or the body was found shall determine the cause of death and shall, for that purpose, make or have performed such examinations, investigations, and autopsies as he or she shall deem necessary or as shall be requested by the state attorney:
(a) When any person dies in the state:
1. Of criminal violence.
2. By accident.
3. By suicide.
4. Suddenly, when in apparent good health.
5. Unattended by a practicing physician or other recognized practitioner.
6. In any prison or penal institution.
7. In police custody.
8. In any suspicious or unusual circumstance.
9. By criminal abortion.
10. By poison.
11. By disease constituting a threat to public health.
12. By disease, injury, or toxic agent resulting from employment.
(b) When a dead body is brought into the state without proper medical certification.
(c) When a body is to be cremated, dissected, or buried at sea.
(2)(a) The district medical examiner shall have the authority in any case coming under subsection (1) to perform, or have performed, whatever autopsies or laboratory examinations he or she deems necessary and in the public interest to determine the identification of or cause or manner of death of the deceased or to obtain evidence necessary for forensic examination.
(b) The Medical Examiners Commission shall adopt rules, pursuant to chapter 120, providing for the notification of the next of kin that an investigation by the medical examiner's office is being conducted. A medical examiner may not retain or furnish any body part of the deceased for research or any other purpose which is not in conjunction with a determination of the identification of or cause or manner of death of the deceased or the presence of disease or which is not otherwise authorized by this chapter, part X of chapter 732, or chapter 873, without notification of and approval by the next of kin.
(3) The Medical Examiners Commission may adopt rules incorporating by reference parameters or guidelines of practice or standards of conduct relating to examinations, investigations, or autopsies performed by medical examiners.
Excuse me? I hope I misunderstand your post.
Contradiction in terms, unless you intend to establish the rule from the rare exception.
The truth was stated 12 years ago when the doctors told MS that she was gone and there was no chance. He didn't believe them and continued this hopeless fight for another five or six years until even he realized there was no hope.
The lies around this case are sickening. The willingness of freepers to get sucked into them is even more sickening.
Like their is some mystery about what "is going on in Terri's brain."
Thanks for posting that. I know they are coming after the alzheimers patients next. As the doctor was describing the latest MRI on my grandma, he said part of her brain is now liquid, reminded me of what they say about Terri's brain.
It is a comfort to us to know that God is with those who are suffering. We know He is watching over our grandma.
I fully expect to have this charade continue for years. There will be lawsuits by the Schindlers against anyone who they decide to turn the mob against. After all there is a worldwide conspiracy to kill TS.
What kind of parent would put their child through this? I can't fathom anyone in their right mind doing this.
Why wait for an autopsy? How about hair, blood and fingernail tests to see what she's been 'fed' -- the sooner the better.
People have their dogs put down, they don't starve them to death. And those of us who don't like to see people suffer will be given the horrible choice of "do you want this person to suffer for three weeks and die, or die painlessly at the end of three weeks with a shot?" And knowing that "living" is off the table because liberal judges have more power than God, we'll go with the less painful way.
I do believe this is the reason liberals say social security isn't a problem. They're going to kill us. If "life support" is feeding someone, children are on the liberal chopping block too. And most the people in nursing homes, and many like Christopher Reeves. Some retarded people need help getting food. Does that count too? What about the unemployed? They couldn't get food if the rest of us didn't "help" them with unemployment? And what about those on welfare? And the disabled? Without "life support" of help getting food many of those people wouldn't make it.
Dems are right, no problem with social security.
Of course the ME does not take orders from a spouse wrt an autopsy. But don't bother the nutballs with fact after all it is so much easier to believe there is a worldwide satanic Nazi conspiracy to do TS in. Why she'd be dancing today but for this conspiracy.
People have their dogs put down, they don't starve them to death. And those of us who don't like to see people suffer will be given the horrible choice of "do you want this person to suffer for three weeks and die, or die painlessly at the end of three weeks with a shot?" And knowing that "living" is off the table because liberal judges have more power than God, we'll go with the less painful way.
I do believe this is the reason liberals say social security isn't a problem. They're going to kill us. If "life support" is feeding someone, children are on the liberal chopping block too. And most the people in nursing homes, and many like Christopher Reeves. Some retarded people need help getting food. Does that count too? What about the unemployed? They couldn't get food if the rest of us didn't "help" them with unemployment? And what about those on welfare? And the disabled? Without "life support" of help getting food many of those people wouldn't make it.
Dems are right, no problem with social security.
Done
I'm sure you didn't.
This charade has gone on far too long and is making the conservatives look like loons. It will come back to hurt us as you already see the crackpots turning on GWB and JB for "not doing enough." Yet these same people think they understand the Constitution and how the world works.
Really? Early MediPlex records say she told nurses to "stop". Read page 2.
I see. Then, why are you on a pro-life site?
Btw, where's a link to a doctor saying this 12 years ago?
Felos just announced that there will be an autopsy at the request of Michael Schiavo.
And your pseudonym? My guess: KarlMarx
Member since March 23, 2005.
From the website: http://www.co.pinellas.fl.us/forensics/
District Six Medical Examiner's Office
10900 Ulmerton Rd., Largo FL 33778
Telephone #. (727) 582-6800
Fax # (727) 582-6820
Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D., District Chief Medical Examiner
Support Staff:
Noel Palma, M.D., Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
Susan Ignacio, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Chris Wilson, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Daniel Schultz, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
William A. Pellan, Director of Investigations
Reta Newman, M.A., Director of PCFL
Office Hours: The office is open seven days a week, excluding holidays, from 8:00 am until 5:00 pm. After hours and on observed holidays, all phone calls are directed to an answering service.
Thogmartin, per Felos-baalGod, is to perform the autopsy. He and MS piece of crap^%*#& that he is, have discussed it and decided on it. CNN is reporting it extensively.
AKA, the ME ordered it.
Gee .. what a guy
BTW ... By law .. MS cannot get the courts to block an autopsy
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