[dirtboy]

Liberals also are fond of starting out with absolute statements from which they will refuse to budge. So they will say something like "It's wrong to kill civilians in war" and point to the civilian death toll in Iraq as proof of that campaign's miserable failure. Even if you spot them 10,000 civilian dead, you can then point out that Saddam killed at least that many of his own people each year for political reasons - and the liberals also claimed before the war that sanctions were killing at least 50,000 kids a year. So when you do the math and point out that 120,000 saved over the last two years minus 10,000 equals 110,000 more civilans that are alive because we took out Saddam, the liberal will then go, "yes, but we killed 10,000 civilians, and that's wrong!" And you cannot reason them from that position.

Of course, as a freeper once noted, you cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to get into in the first place.

[srm913]

That's one of my favorite quotes on earth. It was originally penned by Alexander Pope, BTW.

[jigsaw]

Of course, as a freeper once noted, you cannot reason someone out of a position that they did not use reason to get into in the first place.

Tagline:

It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. ~Jonathan Swift.     brewcrew, 03/08/03

[madameguinot]

When I try to understand how liberals think, I try to imagine 'the myth of the cave' made famous by Plato.

Imagine a cave with a deep entrance. As you enter there is a fire with men passing by it on a platform. Facing the wall of the cave are others who are so bound that they cannot turn their heads. They see nothing but the shadows created by the unbound behind them. If one of them is freed, he is so upset by the direct glare of the fire, and incapable of understanding the reality of the situation,(namely what is causing those shadows) that he goes back to his original bound state which is more familiar.

[mdmathis6]

"the liberal will then go, "yes, but we killed 10,000 civilians, and that's wrong!" "

You reply that Liberals have killed 40 million babies in US abortion mills including 11 million black babies since 1972! And that's wrong!