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Injury Report Prompted Schiavo Cremation Plans
Newsmax ^ | 3/28/05 | unknown

Posted on 03/28/2005 1:26:35 AM PST by beyond the sea

Michael Schiavo decided to have his wife's body cremated after her parents' lawyers obtained medical records showing she had sustained broken bones, a nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo is now claiming.

"He wanted her cremated after the bone fractures and dislocations were found," nurse Carla Sauer Iyer, who cared for Terri in the mid-1990s while she was at the Palm Gardens Convalescent Center, told ABC Radio host Sean Hannity on Friday.

"He immediately went to court and [said he] wanted her body cremated at that time," she said, "after we got hold of the records that proved there were dislocations and fractures."

A 1991 report on a bone scan performed on Terri Schiavo states:

"There are an extensive number of focal abnormal areas ... These include: multiple bilateral ribs ... both sacroiliac joints ... both knees and both ankles."

Radiographs reveal "compression fractures" of the spine and right femur. ... "Compression fracture presumably traumatic," the report says.

Nurse Iyer said she recently contacted Palm Gardens to encourage co-workers who also cared for Terri to speak out - but said they have been muzzled.

"The administrator had gotten them together and they talked about what happened with Michael," Iyer told Hannity. "The people who have worked with Terri who are still there, they cannot talk to reporters - they would be terminated."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cremation; impeachgreer; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: RightWhale
after about 60,000

more than that

341 posted on 03/29/2005 1:45:57 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Peach

But you would grant that many of those on your side, have been:

Told to CUT IT OUT, by the ADMINS
Temporarily suspended
Banned Permanently
The main source of Ad hominem attacks, hate, viciousness.

I could name some screennames, if that would help you jog your memory, As I have seen them post 'high fives' to you and vice versa.

See, we all have our viewpoint. And we defend it.

Put yourself in my (or some other poster's) shoes.

While we are praying to GOD to understand why a disabled woman whose husband makes fun of her menstruation in front of his girlfriend and nurses is being put to DEATH,

We see/hear/read posters ON THE OTHER SIDE Cheering loudly and giving each other high fives.

It is very reminiscent of the uninformed Iraqi's who cheered when 9/11 happened, completely in extasy over the deaths of 3000 some people.

Can you see why there might be some hard feelings, and misunderstandings?

Everyone that wants to put her OUT OF HER MISERY, also totally rejects any information that shows she is capable of feeling misery. That is CONTRADICTION, my dear.

If not in misery, then she is a total vegetable. Vegetables don't sit up, don't react to seeing their mother, don't react to pain. The videos have shown this. Even if she does it one in ten times.

As someone said on another thread, the only difference between Terri, and some retarded disabled child, is that Terri had a DEATH-FOR-PROFIT LAWYER assisting her ADULTEROUS, LYING HUSBAND in getting a RETIRING, GREEDY JUDGE to alter state statutes for Terri's particular condition.

That is called setting a PRECEDENT.


The only reason for setting a PRECEDENT is to be able to do it AGAIN, and AGAIN. If one judge can alter the law for one case, another judge can alter it to fit the next.

Death by Starvation, Death by Dehydration.

People arrested for the symbolic act of taking Terri water?

Just Where does that end?

People arrested for symbolically criticising the government?

FOMENTING REBELLION?

Pictures of what will be done with those who criticize the government follows:

WARNING: Graphic Images.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350794/posts


342 posted on 03/29/2005 1:50:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

We'll have to agree to disagree about a few things you said, but I agree with one or two.

For instance, there's an article somewhere around that states the parents are tracking her eyes, not the other way around.

Talk to you later...have to run and do some stuff around the house :-)


343 posted on 03/29/2005 1:55:58 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: ContraryMary
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/10/29/100629.shtml

Here is public record of a qualified doctor stating that there is need for investigation. Since it is public record, that qualifies the circumstances in the ME's policy, prompting him to do an autopsy.

There are at least a DOZEN other circumstances which would cause an ME to feel the need to do any autopsy under the measures stated in that policy.

USA Today was the only MSM news source I have seen, so far, that qouted FELOS, word for word, instead of implying or stating that Michael requested the autopsy.

AS IF HE HAD ANY CHOICE.

Her family asked for an autopsy before, and yet, that does not matter.

Michael stated he wanted to wait until after she was killed to decide about the autopsy. Well, how long would he wait to decide that? After the cremation?

ALL of it is no different than the guy that offerred MICHAEL $10 million dollars to let Terri go to her parents care.

THAT CAME FROM FELOS, JUST LIKE THIS STATEMENT. You wouldn't have any proof the $10 million was valid offer, that FELOS wasn't LYING and FEEDING the media crap to make his client look good?

Michael Schiavo - Documented liar.

Felos - Communicates with the Dead.

Why do you so strongly take his side? Why side with KILLING someone?

Help me understand how you see the view from your side. Cause, it looks awful dark on that side.

BTW. So far, have not found the link where I read that The ME had declared he would do an autopsy. It was when I was researching Joan Wood, and this new ME, Thogmartin.

Actually I think we both might be wrong.

I can't find an actual statement saying he would do so.

If you have found anything where Michael requested, in writing, to the ME, that he do an autopsy, let's see it.

So far, it is the word of FELOS. A liar.

344 posted on 03/29/2005 2:15:56 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

I am on the guest list, scripture tells me so, but thank you for your concern about my spiritual well-being.

My comment was based on the fact that in a PVS there are no feelings. I've not committed a mortal sin by stating that fact.


345 posted on 03/29/2005 2:16:36 PM PST by imfleck
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To: ContraryMary

So, while you are waiting, and I am searching, perhaps you could tell me what Terri's LAWYER stated about the need for an autopsy or not?


346 posted on 03/29/2005 2:16:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: imfleck

More Freeper-Virus, or Juxtaposting?

Sorry.


347 posted on 03/29/2005 2:20:52 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: beyond the sea
Since the issue of euthanasia has appeared at the top of the list of political concerns during the past two weeks, it might be well to start getting somewhat specific-- names, dates, historical record. There was a euthanasia program being administered in Grafeneck and Hadamer and some other central locations that was ended on Hitler's order in August '41. Was it an exercise for the next program? Maybe in someone's twisted thinking, since the follow on was nowhere near Binding's thinking in terms of the lebensunwertig Lebens. The other thing followed immediately, but it was a different thing with no pretence of euthanasia. Binding's pamphlet resulted in that Gnadentod program. Brandt and Brack did not recant after their death sentence at Nuernberg, instead they said that euthanasia would return.
348 posted on 03/29/2005 2:22:25 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Peach
For instance, there's an article somewhere around that states the parents are tracking her eyes, not the other way around.

?

I'll be back, later as well. Best regards.

349 posted on 03/29/2005 2:22:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Because Dr. Baden tells Greta Van Susteran that he thinks the matter should be investigated is evidence that the M.E. ordered an autopsy? I think not.


350 posted on 03/29/2005 2:26:07 PM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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To: UCANSEE2
Since I haven't found it yet, and most will be off here until later or tomorrow, I will concede that I have not found dated record of the ME's statement about doing an autopsy.

I will concede that Michael did make a statement, along with Felos, to the MEDIA, saying he asked for it.

I still object to and will work on finding proof to the contrary, that the ME is doing the Autopsy only because Michael asked him.

HOW'S THAT?

351 posted on 03/29/2005 2:27:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ContraryMary
Because Dr. Baden tells Greta Van Susteran that he thinks the matter should be investigated is evidence that the M.E. ordered an autopsy?

Because Felos told a group of reporters that Michael wants an autopsy is evidence the ME ordered an autopsy?

352 posted on 03/29/2005 2:29:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Because Felos told a group of reporters that Michael wants an autopsy is evidence the ME ordered an autopsy?

You don't think the autopsy will take place?

354 posted on 03/29/2005 2:39:25 PM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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To: imfleck

I have reviewed your posts, and I was not wrong.
You have made your position abundantly clear.
Thank you.


355 posted on 03/29/2005 2:57:58 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Robert1947
The ME can call for an autopsy or not. It's their decision

That is, to the best of my ability in researching and reading all the law and the policy statement by Dr. Thogmartin, exactly the case.

Felos giving a press conference, and stating Michael wants Terri to an autopsy, and that he has requested the ME do it, is a twisting of the true facts.

Michael allowed Terri to have one drop during communion, giving in to his earlier orders.

OK.

Now he 'requests' the autopsy. That is legal and possible for him to do.

There is legal paperwork that accompanies such a request, per policy. Where is it?

Or is it in the same place as the offer of $10 million to let Terri go that Felos also released to the press?

One lie or two?

Had Michael or Felos said, "The ME will be doing an autopsy due to the nature of the case, and since I have nothing to hide, I will be happy to see the results and I think the public will finally understand Terri's plight."

Any comment similar to that would have helped convince me.

Didn't happen.

356 posted on 03/29/2005 3:58:16 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: henbane

I wish it happened, but it won't


357 posted on 03/29/2005 4:02:00 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: ContraryMary

Jon R. Thogmartin, chief medical examiner of Pinellas County, will perform an autopsy immediately after she dies, said George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo. The results will be released to the public at Michael Schiavo's request, he said.


358 posted on 03/29/2005 6:57:44 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ContraryMary

I do. I think the ME decided he would do it, and Michael then stated he would release it publicly. That is what the media refers to when they said Michael 'asked' for the autopsy.


359 posted on 03/29/2005 7:04:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

You THINK the M.E. decided he would do it? Still not good enough. I also see that you recognize that Michael has ASKED that the results be made public.


360 posted on 03/29/2005 7:06:18 PM PST by ContraryMary (WPPFF Member)
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