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Injury Report Prompted Schiavo Cremation Plans
Newsmax ^ | 3/28/05 | unknown

Posted on 03/28/2005 1:26:35 AM PST by beyond the sea

Michael Schiavo decided to have his wife's body cremated after her parents' lawyers obtained medical records showing she had sustained broken bones, a nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo is now claiming.

"He wanted her cremated after the bone fractures and dislocations were found," nurse Carla Sauer Iyer, who cared for Terri in the mid-1990s while she was at the Palm Gardens Convalescent Center, told ABC Radio host Sean Hannity on Friday.

"He immediately went to court and [said he] wanted her body cremated at that time," she said, "after we got hold of the records that proved there were dislocations and fractures."

A 1991 report on a bone scan performed on Terri Schiavo states:

"There are an extensive number of focal abnormal areas ... These include: multiple bilateral ribs ... both sacroiliac joints ... both knees and both ankles."

Radiographs reveal "compression fractures" of the spine and right femur. ... "Compression fracture presumably traumatic," the report says.

Nurse Iyer said she recently contacted Palm Gardens to encourage co-workers who also cared for Terri to speak out - but said they have been muzzled.

"The administrator had gotten them together and they talked about what happened with Michael," Iyer told Hannity. "The people who have worked with Terri who are still there, they cannot talk to reporters - they would be terminated."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cremation; impeachgreer; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: silverleaf

That's right. In the end we ALL have to pay one way or another.


181 posted on 03/28/2005 7:04:58 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: CedarDave
The spokesman for the Media Research Center was on Fox this morning. Made the point that the nationwide polls that show 50 to 70+% support for discontinuing life support are based on questions that are misleading (i.e. she is in a persistent vegetative state) and further influenced by the old media's not correcting this statement, but to the contrary, repeating it over and over in their press, radio and TV reporting. ---

Good, I'm glad MRC came on FoxNews. But the damage is done. Too many of the ignorant and uninformed citizens have been brainwashed, and to me, the Republicans did not get out and tell the real story of the history of the marriage and her confinement and her real condition (even though they were sabotaged by Democrat/liberal/media lies.

Did you read that whole story noted in post # 61. The Democrats just make it up! Pathetic!

182 posted on 03/28/2005 7:13:05 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: bjs1779; All
Greer's troops in action.....

STOP RESISTING OR YOU WILL BE TAZED!!

CLEAR THE AIR!! EMERGENCY TRAFFIC!!

OFFICERS NEED ASSISTANCE!!  REPEAT, WE NEED HELP!!

SUSPECT IN CUSTODY, RADIO SECURE...

RETURNING TO POSTS!!

UWS

183 posted on 03/28/2005 7:25:00 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: beyond the sea
He was shopping for a funeral home back in the early 1990's too. Her medical records from the night of her collapse have never been released either. Nothing to see here move along....
184 posted on 03/28/2005 7:26:30 AM PST by Pajamajan (And if God will send His angels, and if God will send a sign, will everything be alright? Pray4Terri)
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To: underwiredsupport
Do you think they have enough manpower to subdue that 10 year old?
185 posted on 03/28/2005 7:28:27 AM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: bjs1779

Nope...don't see any MEN in the photo!!! :0(


186 posted on 03/28/2005 7:30:03 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: TaxRelief

That's not the only money to follow. Think of the long-term care insurance companies. Their rates are based on estimated length of stay. If you can cut the length of stay in half you've made yourself billions of dollars. If you have disabled people lying around for years you've lost billions. Guess what side the insurance companies are on.


187 posted on 03/28/2005 7:35:29 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: bjs1779; All
from another FR thread...

JUDGE SET UP ELABORATE SECURITY AND COP BRAGGED THEY KEPT PRESIDENT, GOVERNOR OUT

[The following report comes from Jackie Doucette, a close friend of the Schindlers who has fought by their sides for years]:

Yesterday during the hospice vigil, I recognized three undercover sheriff's deputies in plain clothes spying on Terri supporters. They work for the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office as deputies.

I told him that it was obvious that he was spying on the protestors. My friends and I asked him why there were so many special police units, a swat team, K-9 units, and undercover cops swarming around hospice. His face became red and he said he didn't know what we were talking about. He stammered and told us that he was only there to learn and to watch. I told him he was an undercover deputy and was there to spy on us.

I watched him spy on Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski as he was giving an interview with a local TV station. Randy stood next to the monsignor trying to hear the conversation. I told Randy that I knew what he was doing.

Circuit Judge George W. Greer presides Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005, at the Pinellas County Courthouse in Clearwater, Fla., during a hearing requested by the Florida Department of Children and Families asking to unseal court documents so the DCF can continue its investigation into alleged abuse of Terri Schiavo. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)Several weeks ago during a court hearing, Judge George Greer told an attorney for Michael Schiavo, Deborah Bushnell, that he made arrangements for hospice to be covered with police from the Pinellas Park Police Department and the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. Greer bragged during the hearing that the Sheriff's Office had installed high-tech surveillance equipment and monitoring devices to keep an eye on the demonstrators. Greer boasted that he was able to get all the special police units to guard hospice. Judge Greer is a close friend with former Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice (now a Florida House Representative who recently voted against the Terri bill) and the current sheriff, James Coats.

Yesterday, a police officer from the Pinellas Park Police Department told us that they were proud to be able to block President Bush and Governor Jeb Bush from taking Terri into protective custody.

Several days ago, Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski wanted to place a drop of the Precious Blood of Jesus on Terri's tongue. The police officer standing guard in Terri's room threatened to arrest the monsignor if he attempts to place anything in Terri's mouth. Monsignor told me of this incident after the Holy Thursday Mass. He's a very holy and humble man. He's ministered to Terri for over four years.

188 posted on 03/28/2005 7:35:41 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: jstolzen
Of course, the people not being fed as part of 'end of life protocol' apparently wish it for themselves, or have Living Wills specifing it.

There are a number of elderly who will be surprised to find out that 'extraordinary means' includes food and water.

189 posted on 03/28/2005 7:37:11 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: underwiredsupport
Here are a few more on America's Most Wanted list. Nice job guys.


190 posted on 03/28/2005 7:37:30 AM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: underwiredsupport
"Yesterday, a police officer from the Pinellas Park Police Department told us that they were proud to be able to block President Bush and Governor Jeb Bush from taking Terri into protective custody."

I heard they even have police sniper units deployed in various buildings around there, too.

191 posted on 03/28/2005 7:44:00 AM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: bjs1779; All

Shameful...I wonder if they deploy with this level of force for Crack houses, bank robberies, and home invasions...or does Greer have the county reserve such force levels for Religious "zealots".....very sad...


192 posted on 03/28/2005 7:52:32 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: beckysueb
This whole thing looks more and more like blatant murder and a public that has been duped into complacency by a biased media and some slick talking lawyers.

Similar in a way to the Roe v. Wade case.

193 posted on 03/28/2005 7:54:48 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: beyond the sea
The posts, threads and research are magnificent. May God bless all of you.
194 posted on 03/28/2005 7:56:35 AM PST by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: henbane

Law enforcement and other legal entities must move to prevent guilty parties from covering-up or in any way erasing material that may be used for future investigations and prosecutions that well may reach from the county bench level in Florida all the way up to the Federal Court System.




03.27.05

Law Enforcement Officers Tell Bush to Open Criminal Investigation In Schiavo Case

Officer Jack McLamb (ret), the highest decorated police officer in the history of Phoenix, AZ, has joined with active and retired law enforcement officers asking Florida’s Gov. Jeb Bush to open a criminal investigation in the case of Terri Schindler-Schiavo, the disabled Florida woman who probate judge George W. Greer has sentenced to death by starvation and dehydration because she uses a feeding tube.

McLamb is founder of the American Citizens and Lawmen’s Association (ACLA), publisher of Aid and Abet Police and Military Newsletter. He is a former hostage negotiator for the FBI.

His letter to Gov. Bush follows:


Dear Governor Bush,

We active and retired, law enforcement police investigators, after reviewing the facts, evidence, witness statements, and investigative leads, in the Terri
Schiavo case have come to the determination that there must be a criminal investigation into the Schiavo case.

Our examination have caused we professional police investigators, to determine that there is evidence, witness statements (medical professionals and others)
that point to the strong probability that the victim/witness Terri Schiavo was violently attacked on the day of her injuries and this is likely what caused her disability. There are medical professionals who substantiate that Mrs. Schiavo was strangled and the blood was cut off to her brain for at least 4 to 5 minutes causing her brain damage. X-rays show that she received broken bones and other injuries on or around the same time as her alleged health problem on the day in question.

Testimony of witnesses state her husband Mr. Schiavo, even though being a trained nurse and did not start CPR at the scene of his wife's collapse. The emergency personal started CPR after they arrived which was some time after the "injuries" occurred.

We have assessed the person of Mr. Schiavo thought the witness statements of professional medical personal who have come in contact with him. Most of these witnesses have had contact with him in the medical or Hospice environment where his wife has been warehoused over the last decade. We say "warehoused" after much research into the total lack of rehab and medical treatment for
health problems such as infections, which he had demanded of the medical staff in each of these facilities.

Additionally, a true detriment to any criminal investigation conducted after Mrs. Schiavo dies, is that Mr. Schiavo has scheduled a cremation of her body
immediately after her death.

Governor Bush, we are concerned that the best evidence, witness statements, in any criminal investigation into alleged criminal attempted murder, capital assault and continued abuse, will die with Mrs. Schiavo. We also believe this is why Mr. Schiavo has had to turn down millions of dollars from donors, if he would but place Mrs. Schiavo's care into the hands of her family because of his concern that she may live and tell what happened to her on that fateful day. According to witnesses who spent months with Mrs. Schiavo, she could and did communicate with them during their duty hours at the Hospice centers.
Mr. Schiavo told these medical professionals he was wanting her to die. He also would cuss and say "Isn't that Bitch dead yet" and other words of disdain for his wife.

As you have heard, several professional medical nurses state that Mrs. Schiavo also ate and drank liquids during their tour of duty.

Governor Bush, this means that Mrs. Schiavo could be a witness to any possible crimes committed against her. Of course this will not be an option if she dies in the next hours. Our police investigators have read the witness statement of another professional medical staff member who said that on at least two occasions she and others believes that Mr. Schiavo tried to kill his wife while
he was in her room with the doors closed. These witnesses and investigative leads must be interviewed.

Governor Bush, we do not know what a full investigation into this case will determine, except we can be certain that more facts and evidence, will be discovered. But, one thing we are certain of, we police investigators need a
hero at this time to save the life of the prime witness and possible victim in this case. We are asking you to be that hero.

You do have the jurisdiction and power to start a criminal investigation into this case and suspend the death sentence of the prime witness.

Governor Bush, this is off subject, but it is a subject we lawmen know something about and we wish to share this with you. In the life of a man there are a few times when he is called on by the people to do something heroic. As you know, because of fear, most people pass up those very few opportunities to do what is right and be a hero of the people. This is why we see so few Americans in the
history books.

We don't have to tell you historically (even recent history) of men in high office who have answered the call to be a hero of the people. Yes, very few. But, some were governors who went on to gain higher office because of the
people's love and support for that heroic figure.

Governor Bush, do you know that the Pope and the Vatican have mentioned Mrs.Schiavo's terrible crucifixion here in this Easter week with her mother Mary nearby, and some Priests have now begun to reference it to the crucifixion
of a innocent man Jesus Christ, while His mother (Mary) stood nearby in anguish. Remember, Terri is a catholic and so is her family. You can be assured that most Catholics are going to side with the Pope.

Governor, very large Protestant organizations are on the side of saving Mrs. Schiavo's life until further tests can be accomplished and she can have real rehab to see if she can improve.

We have a letter of a very large national Jewish organization that wants Mrs. Schiavo saved. We can make all this available to you and your staff. But, Mrs. Shiavo's website has most of this material on it at www.terrisfight.org.

What we law enforcement officers wish to point out to you is that we professional investigators have our reasons to save this woman's life, i.e. we because she is a very important witness and the possible victim of a capitol
crime, but the world has heard of this case at this time. We even have a news article from a big Russia publication about American politicians letting a innocent women starve to death.

Governor Bush, the world and certainly most Americans want a hero today....this hour. The person who saves Mrs. Schiavo's life and gives her due process and a chance to tell her story of what actually happened to her will go down in history books. It is also true that after the books come out, and this story gets out about the facts, evidence of the conspiracy of government against this
innocent young women.... the people who allow her to die will also go down in history. It will mean the downfall of some in high places for their not wanting to step up and do their duty to protect the people and bring to justice
those who were the possible suspects in her demise.

Sir, I know that we are only law enforcement officers, but doubt us not, collectively we have been around a long time and know what we are talking about. There are already those in Hollywood who we know that are interested in the evidence and witness's into Terri Schiavo's side of this story.

Mel Gibson has issued a public letter on his own stationary to have our government leaders save her life. Some of our police association members are in contact with him and his family.

Governor, you are a good man. You could be a great man. There is no question this is a international situation and a heart warmer for any hero who steps forward to save this innocent, who "Pontious Pilate" (government leaders) has washed his hands of....here in this Easter week.

We police investigators look at all criminal cases as ...."does this case have jury appeal". Dear Governor, if any case has it.... this case has jury (massive public appeal).

Not only do you have the law on your side (one example - Judge Greer violated three state of Florida statutes in not defending Mrs. Schiavo as a disabled person when he pulled the tube of Mrs. Schiavo) ...we have the State Statutes, ....but you have Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and other great leaders on your side. These great men and others, on numerous occasions, have stated that
the three areas of government, Executive, Judicial and Legislative, are to be separate and equal. You have publicly taken a lower and subordinate position to the judiciary - when this is not the case.

We criminal police investigators (and your Florida State Police) offer you a sound reason to be the people's hero and stop this young woman's horrible death thought dehydration, i.e.... THERE MUST BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS CASE BEFORE THE PRIME WITNESS DIES! There are too many unanswered questions! Some of them may be criminal!

Governor Bush, you have your future before you, however some of that future may be linked to a young innocent who will die on your watch in the next few hours or days.

We believe in you, and we, along with millions of Americans, pray you will do the right thing, save a life, secure your witness... and be the people's hero.
We need a hero today.

Thank you for your efforts on behalf of all the people, even the weak and disabled.

Very sincerely,
Law officer Jack McLamb, Ret.
President of the American Citizens & Lawmen Association.












195 posted on 03/28/2005 8:03:40 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

Why don't the Schindlers file criminal charges against Schiavo? They could at least prevent him from cremating the body while the trial commences (assuming she is not kept alive)?


196 posted on 03/28/2005 8:11:56 AM PST by PaRebel (Visualize Whirled Peas!)
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To: underwiredsupport

Pinellas County, FL... A little patch of hell, right here on earth.

How's that for a tourism slogan?


197 posted on 03/28/2005 8:14:04 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: bjs1779

Yep, That's the one!!

:-)


198 posted on 03/28/2005 8:24:28 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: silverleaf

Isn't it possible that there was a nursing clique surrounding Terri and that clique and their misbehaviors are what got them fired? If that's possible, then I suggest that Iyer is not credible.

I don't know that any of them are being pursued for perjury. I don't think that happens as often as Law & Order would have us believe.

I've noticed that Michael Schiavo isn't being pursued for purgery either, yet 90% of the folks on any of these Terri threads say he's a liar.


199 posted on 03/28/2005 8:27:37 AM PST by imfleck
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To: imfleck

Note to yourself: The time to get on board, is before the train is leaving the station. You are yelling at the caboose, and it is almost out of sight. You think the nurses are lying, and the MS is credible....Greer had their depositions for years, but would not allow them to be submitted or considered. It "gummed" up the killing machine he and FELON were masterminding...and as for you....

J.O.A.C.


200 posted on 03/28/2005 8:46:09 AM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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