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To: jb6; Tailgunner Joe
Well, in different countries there are differet attitudes relating to getting citizenship.

In U.S. - as far as I know - if you're born on American soil, you're also automatically a U.S. citizen, even if your parents are illegal immigrants (am I right?). It's called "law of land".

But it's not like that everywhere. Other rule is based on so called "law of blood", and relates to ethnicity. It's like in Germany or Israel. If you proof that you're an ethnic German (or Jewish) you'll get citizenship - no matter where you lived before, or where you were born.
In countries having such a system the fact, that someone was born in that country doesn't mean, that he'll get the citizenship.

Like me for example - if one day I (being a Pole) decided with my wife to move to Israel, lived there - let's say for 5 years - and our kid was born there, so the kid wouldn't be an Israeli citizen. There would be some other legal status for him, but not citizeship.

The same is in Germany and it is getting bigger and bigger problem - relating to the Turkish community. There are many, many Turks there, who were born in Germany, speak fluent German, have never been to Turkey and have no chances to get Geramn citizenship.
On the other hand - there were (and still are) quite many Poles, who were born on territories, that used to be German before WW2, and now belong to Poland. And - as far as I know - it's quite easy for them to get a German passport.
I've seen on TV a programme about Polish people, who got German citizenship, and now receive German welfare pensions as unemployed ones, living in Poland.
51 posted on 03/28/2005 11:14:46 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

"many Poles, who were born on territories, that used to be German before WW2, and now belong to Poland. And - as far as I know - it's quite easy for them to get a German passport"

Are they ethnic Poles or are they Poles of German ethnicity? Its pretty easy if they are the later - many Volksdeutsche from all Eastern countries have and continue to migrate to Germnay; I wasnt aware of it being possible for Poles from former German lands to. Unless I guess they were Poles who were formerly German nationals in the pre-WWII days? There are quite a few of those still around I guess.


52 posted on 03/28/2005 11:18:20 AM PST by free_european
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To: lizol

That entire posting is total nonsense regarding the German procedures to grant citizenship.

I also think they changed the requirements to get welfare following the floridarolf case. Originally the possibility to receive welfare while being abroad was introduced for the remaining German Jews who left Germany for Israel after WW2.


62 posted on 03/28/2005 12:02:57 PM PST by floridarolf (Whom we love we allow to do us harm (Turkish saying translated from German))
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