Part 7 - EASTER SUNDAY -NO FOOD OR WATER 10-11TH DAYS- SHE'S FIGHTING TO LIVE [Schiavo]

Continuing thread ^ | 03/27/05 | various

[jpsb]

A Jewish organization said what is happen there rises evil to the level of Sodon. So yea, the Phillie better get thier butts out of town.

Someone was calling for an Fla boycot, I won't buy that but a clearwater boycott would be an excelent idea.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

In a way yes and no. Honestly, we can't sort it all out here, but there are very many distinctions to be made in "these cases". People easily talk right past each other if some terms aren't defined etc. Terri, is especially deserving defense because of suspicious motives and evidence. Now often feeding tubes are disconnected I understand when some other factor is taking the life of a patient anyway. And that is ok. But with Terri that is not the case. On the other hand it is hugely symbolic to the general public and the MSM that, to no one's surprise, brings everything down to the most simplistic level.

[jpsb]

'brings everything down to the most simplistic level."

Yes, that if you are going to fight in the realm of public opinoun you absolutely have to do. Complicate the issue and you lose all momentun in your direction. And in Terry case we (pro-life) need to generate momentum and fast so we must keep it simple.

[Orlando]

Check out my bio(Profile)..Look at image of the HOLY MOTHER, she would not appear for no reason...

Alot of Baseball Players still believe in GOD, Jesus Christ, and the HOLY Mother, and they need to be warned about this evil place, before something horrorable comes this way...The baseball players that Truly believe in GOD
stay away from that evil place, or you might find yourself in a very , very bad situation....

The signs were there, and warnings were given, and it all connects with the Fatima messages, and alot more...

When Theresa dies , the grace is gone

[BonnieJ]

No need to be insulting.

[jpsb]

Sometime pleas explain what all this means, I would like to know.

I am a constitutional conservative, I share many values with religious/social conservatives but my motivation is to see that the orgininal intend of the constitution is not perverted . So I am ignorant of many things that religious/social take for granted. Oh I am Christan, just not a very good one I'm afraid.

[BonnieJ]

My opposition is to the MEANS. We starve people to death as euthanasia in this country. That does not strike you as being barbaric, even with other circumstances vary? You're right, maybe we can't "dialogue". Is your first preference always to insinuate that others lack "understanding"? That makes me question YOUR depth.

[jpsb]

"No need to be insulting. "

Evryone nerves are raw, I know mine are and tomorrow will be the worth day yet.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I see your point. But over-reliance on that model runs a risk of creating/reinforcing a negative image of "simplistic, backward, fundamentalistic (is that a word), etc. pro-life wackos.
personally, I view Terri's case in terms of just plain proper ethics for a person about to die. No doubt it's the euthanasia movement pushing her death; I just still frame it in terms of dying with dignity. My wife has experience in hospice RN work and had to quit because of conscience. The push to death is alive and well I know. But if we keep clear on perhaps several moral principles, the battle can be won.

[BonnieJ]

Excuse me...even WHEN other circumstances vary. It is late and I'm leaving for Europe in a few hours, and the tone here is disheartening lately.

[Future Useless Eater]

thanks, both of you, and bless you.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I am not trying to be insulting. But, well see the last post I made.
There is a difference in this case. We can't sweep aside distinctions and imply that governors all across the country are as culpable as Jeb as per the original post I responded too. In the first place THE PUBLICITY ALONE makes a substantial difference in the moral picture of this case.
I have been and will continue to be very critical of the executives Jeb and W who couldn't see a way to save Terri.

[jpsb]

" pro-life wackos." seems like a contradiction it terms to me. But I suppose one can take pro-life issues to extreme brain in a jar limits. And I agree common sense must enter into the eqauton at some point, but it is imperative that we establish beynd any question that life gets the benefit of doubt, any doubt.

[jpsb]

Have a safe trip, and hurry back.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

Your right you sound reasonable on this. I hope you see my point. I guess it turns out to be the same issue that set Bonnie off. I'm awfully sorry about that.

[SvdByFaith]

Does anyone that's here live in Florida?

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I know EternalVigilance has been down there and one other Freeper I noticed earlier today. But not I.

[SvdByFaith]

I just read that MS allowed Terri to receive communion! Am I behind on news?

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

Ah, yeah, if you are normally a consumate news junkie on this like I have been. But that ok. It was a drop of the Precious Blood given to her.

[Awestruck]

Just a bit, love.. bit that's ok.. we love you anyhow :)