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To: L.N. Smithee

You call her "Terri," and I am going to assume you are a polite person who wouldn't do that without knowing her personally. Of course I call her Mrs. Schiavo, which is the polite thing to do until she suggests I should call her by her first name. I admit I didn't know her.

Based on your personal knowledge of her... (did you know her longer than her husband?) ...did she tell you that she'd want to have her body kept going even after her higher brain functions were gone--that her cerebral cortex (indeed, most of her cerebrum!) was replaced by fluid? Did you know her well enough to extrapolate that would be her preference?

Note...it's quite clear that Mrs. Schiavo is not going to "get better"... Years of therapy didn't help, and her body's in worse condition now.

Note...it's quite clear that Mrs. Schiavo could in no way communicate her displeasure at being force-fed.

Note...it's clear that many courts have ruled as to her preference.

Note...it was Mr. Schindler who initially said that he'd have Mrs. Schiavo's arms and legs amputated and have her cut open, all to keep her body going--even if she didn't want it!

So I think it's very relevant.

BTW, I'm sorry you lost a dear friend. I don't mean this to detract from your personal loss. From what I've read on here, Mrs. Schiavo was like the Second Coming of Christ. Although I think ALL people should have their rights respected, when it's a saint like Mrs. Schiavo, that must be tough.


54 posted on 03/27/2005 2:18:15 PM PST by Gondring (You don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: Gondring

Terri did not have years of therapy. At least 4 nurses have now gone public after years of intiimidation.
This is one of them. Olga, the one Terri was closest to, the one who defied Michael, is dead- car wreck.
http://www.hospicepatients.org/heidi-law-09-03-affidavit-re-terri-schiavo-michael.html


66 posted on 03/27/2005 2:26:34 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Gondring

Her parents sure knew her a lot longer then her estranged husband.
Your whole argument is that we don't know,which is really what this is all about ... when you don't know you don't kill.


82 posted on 03/27/2005 2:37:17 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Gondring

YEARS OF THERAPY??? You are kidding, right?? YEARS OF NO THERAPY IS WHAT SHE HAD. Go do the research.


108 posted on 03/27/2005 2:56:06 PM PST by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you. God please save Terri. ..TERRI IS THIRSTY.)
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To: Gondring
Based on your personal knowledge of her... (did you know her longer than her husband?) ...did she tell you that she'd want to have her body kept going even after her higher brain functions were gone--that her cerebral cortex (indeed, most of her cerebrum!) was replaced by fluid? Did you know her well enough to extrapolate that would be her preference?

If you wish to use "personal knowledge of her" as a gauge, no one has more of that than her own parents. Next!

Note...it's quite clear that Mrs. Schiavo is not going to "get better"...

She will never be a normally functioning human being, but some people believe that she can progress from where she is now. Terri is not the first nor will she be the last person doomed by "experts," who are oftentimes embarrassed when patients survive and/or recover.

Note...it's quite clear that Mrs. Schiavo could in no way communicate her displeasure at being force-fed.

Since you are accepting the premise of Carla Iyer's sworn affidavit that hospice staffers actually did feed her orally with no problem, you are bound to accept the further testimony that Terri did not show any displeasure at being given Jello through her mouth, and that after being alone in her room with her HINO, she showed signs of distress and often cried. Next!

Note...it's clear that many courts have ruled as to her preference.

A "preference" that only came to light after her HINO won $1.2 mil in a malpractice suit for the purpose of improving her condition. Why wasn't her "preference" discussed with anyone else up until that point? Besides, if you are going to suggest that she couldn't register displeasure with being fed orally, I can just as well suggest that she can't register disapproval of being starved to death.

Note...it was Mr. Schindler who initially said that he'd have Mrs. Schiavo's arms and legs amputated and have her cut open, all to keep her body going--even if she didn't want it!

I have heard this spouting from the mouths of the HINO and his ghoulish lawyer (who apparently thinks starving chicks are hot), but I would prefer to read the specific statements in context. I don't trust the word of the HINO, much less his highly-paid liar...I mean, lawyer.

So I think it's very relevant.

As opposed to my reply, which compared Terri's grandmother's situation to hers, you have not addressed the canyonesque differences between Mother Schindler's fatal illness and Terri's debilitating condition. It's clear why you haven't; you wouldn't be able to respond at all.

From what I've read on here, Mrs. Schiavo was like the Second Coming of Christ.

You're a liar. Link a post that says that. I dare you.

Although I think ALL people should have their rights respected, when it's a saint like Mrs. Schiavo, that must be tough.

Your smarminess and intellectual dishonesty betray your words.

132 posted on 03/27/2005 3:17:07 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (To some people, Terri Schiavo is a deformed fetus in the 120th trimester)
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