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DEMONSTRATOR : " BARBARA BUSH ARE YOU PROUD OF YOUR SONS NOW ? " (Terri Schavio case)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050327/480/flsn10803271721 ^ | AP

Posted on 03/27/2005 11:48:41 AM PST by gwb43_2004

Demonstrators Mary Porta, kneeling, and others pray for Terri Schiavo, Easter Sunday, March 27, 2005, outside the hospice, where Terri resides, in Pinellas Park, Fla. Under increased security and with fading hopes, Terri Schiavo's parents asked supporters to return home to spend Easter Sunday with their families as the couple's severely brain-damaged daughter went a ninth day without food or water. (AP Photo/Steve Nesius)


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To: Matchett-PI
After a little thought, the RATS have already lost Bigtime on this issue. Once people step back and think about what happened and how it happened they are going to realize the judge issue is a Major issue, the political pressure on the RINOS who back down will cause them to lose their jobs. It's as simple as that. The new special interest group is the blogger and their followers. One by one we will take them down.
361 posted on 03/27/2005 7:56:43 PM PST by John Lenin (Homosexuals are not born that way they are made by circumstance)
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To: John Lenin; Wallace T.

"After a little thought, the RATS have already lost Bigtime on this issue. Once people step back and think about what happened and how it happened they are going to realize the judge issue is a Major issue, the political pressure on the RINOS who back down will cause them to lose their jobs. It's as simple as that. The new special interest group is the blogger and their followers. One by one we will take them down." ~ John Lenin

I totally agree. In fact, Rush was making that point all last week. Here's an excerpt of what he said Friday:

Democrats Remain in Quicksand March 25, 2005
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

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RUSH: This is a fascinating story, fascinating story. It's an AP story. It starts out this way: "Majority Leader Bill Frist messaged his fellow Republican senators privately by saying Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Democrats have been very helpful throughout.

He was referring here to negotiations on legislation designed to save Terri Schiavo." Now, that was in the Senate.

The atmosphere's a little different in the House, though. "Democratic opponents wanted extra time for debate and an on-the-record vote last weekend before allowing the final bill to pass. The attitude marked an exception for a minority not accustomed to muting its opposition, a reflection of Schiavo's personal tragedy and the desire of many Democratic lawmakers to support the bill or at least avoid opposing it.

One Democratic aide, talking to the AP on condition of anonymity said, 'The party didn't want to be on the wrong side of the culture of life,'" so they went silent in the Senate. They didn't want a voice vote. They wanted a unanimous consent vote so there wasn't any kind of recorded vote or voice vote, so they would not have to take a stand on it because they weren't sure where they were going to come down vis-à-vis public opinion on this.

If you add to that their hope that the Republicans would wind up paying a political price by offending large segments of the electorate out of a desire to appeal to social conservatives, you have the recipe that the Democrat strategists came up with: Let's stand silent; let's let the Republicans kill themselves on this. Let them impale themselves. Let's let the Republicans pander to the social conservatives -- i.e. the wacko holy rollers -- and we'll just sit idly by not saying anything and stay out of the fray and we'll benefit that way.

This second Democratic aide, speaking, again, on condition of anonymity, explaining the strategy, said, "That's why we've just been sort of keeping our mouths shut on this. We want the Republicans to pay a price by offending large segments of the electorate."

So once again, here you have the Republicans taking a stand, taking a position, be it Social Security reform, be it whatever the issue, the Republicans have a plan, they've got an idea. Democrats sit back, trying not to offend anybody, so they don't take a position at all, hoping not that they will gain by something proactive, but, rather, that they will gain by virtue of the Republicans committing political suicide.

However, while all these Democrats are sitting around and not taking a stand and now comfortably standing behind public opinion polling, ----- which is dubious in its construction, if you ask me, ----- that shows a vast majority of Americans in favor of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube being removed and staying removed.

If you look at the Democrats, they think they made the right decision because they think now that the culture of life question is the -- well, their side of it is the right side based on these polls -- and that the Republicans have created some incredible harm, caused some incredible harm to themselves by taking a position on this.

Okay. So that's polls and that's strategy.

But then when the rubber meets the road and Democrats have to go out there and get elected, what do they usually do?

What did Tom Daschle do when he went back to South Dakota, his alleged home to run for re-election? He got pictures of hugging George Bush, supporting the war on terror.

What's Hillary Clinton doing now that she wants to become president? Why, she's trying to make people believe that she's pro-life. And all for faith-based people in government.

Interesting she hasn't taken this story and the occasion of this event to really cement that move, isn't it?

Is this move not ripe for Hillary Clinton? If she really wants to submit to people that her move to the right is substantive and genuine, what better opportunity than the Schiavo case to take a stand on religious people in government, faith-based programs in government, and her new-found respect for life vis-à-vis the abortion debate. She's amazingly silent on this.

Let me ask you this question, folks, purely hypothetical because it will never happen: If between now and the time Terri Schiavo passes away, if Hillary Clinton were to stand up and say, "I think that feeding tube needs to be reinserted," what do you think the reaction would be across the spectrum in this country? What effect would that have?

Just purely hypothetical. I don't know myself. I'm just posing it. What do you think the reaction would be on the left in this country to her? What do you think the reaction among the judiciary would be? What do you think the reaction among Democrats in Congress and the Senate would be? What do you think the reaction amongst the holy roller Christian conservatives would be?

You don't think they'd believe her? Mr. Snerdley thinks that nobody would believe her. Well, that would be a risk. She'd be running a huge risk if she came out and said that and didn't mean it. That would be... The hypothetical is she says it. If you want to think she doesn't mean it, then that's a fair assessment. That's consistent with the way Hillary Clinton is judged by others. Well, she hasn't spoken, so it's purely hypothetical. But again, she's not running for election anytime soon.

But there are two Democrat senators who are running for re-election in a year and a half. One of them is Kent Conrad from North Dakota. He faces a potentially difficult race in 2006. You know what he said of the Schiavo case? "Her parents want to give her a chance. I think of my own daughter. We ought to give her a chance."

So here's a Democrat who is sort of violating the policy strategy that the other Democrats have come up with, which is to remain silent and let the Republicans impale themselves on this.

Kent Conrad, facing re-election, is not listening to the polls. He's not paying attention to public opinion polls. Why, the one poll that matters to him is an election, and he's placed himself firmly on the side of Terri Schiavo in this case.

Senator Bill Nelson from Florida, also on the ballot in 2006, noted changes made from an earlier version of the legislation. He said he supported the bill so that this case can be heard again.

So here you have two Democrats running for re-election in tight races, and they're nowhere near where the other Democrats are on this, which is opposing the reinsertion of the feeding tube.

So you can talk to me all you want about polls and whether the Republicans have impaled themselves.

You can tell me all day long if you want, how the Republicans have cooked their own goose by pandering to their constituency here, but when the pedal hits the metal, when the rubber meets the road, when the cold is on the ice, when drugs are on Miami vice and Democrats need to get elected, what do they do? They move to the right.

It tells me, folks, just the opposite of what the Democrats think is going to happen. If there's going to be a backlash here come next election or two, it's the people who stood on the sideline and didn't do anything and implied opposition to the feeding tube being reinserted which will probably pay the greater and larger political price.

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(AP: Democrats gave GOP little fight on Schiavo)


362 posted on 03/27/2005 9:09:28 PM PST by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a criminal enterprise full of moral relativists. Pass it on.)
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To: Wormwood
Heretic!

I guess so!

363 posted on 03/27/2005 9:47:50 PM PST by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
"The Bush Bros. know better - they know they can do something."

Did they actually read the entire case and then affirm Greer's full Court ruling? I don't think so.

As I understand it, the appelate Courts limit their rulings to a few points of law which the appealing attorney believes should not have happened during the trial; then he tries to convince the appelate Court that if these illegal occurences hadn't been allowed during the trial, or if such-and-such evidence HAD been allowed, then his client might have won.

So in essence, the only judge to have ever sat for the full case and made a ruling on its entire merits was Judge Greer. All those other judges involved either just skimmed over a few relevent facts, or refused to hear the appeal at all.

364 posted on 03/27/2005 11:56:45 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
"The only way to strip the courts of liberal activist judges, is a few at the time, just like the liberals put them there. We only get to appoint judges if our people are President, and Governors, and the only way to get them confirmed is to have our people representing the majority in both the US Congress and the states congresses."

Don't you think we have already accomplished this to the degree it is possible? We own the House, the Senate, The White House. Even SCOTUS has five Justices hand picked by Republican Presidents. T'aint working.

Bush can't get his Judges through the filibusters and roadblocks and dirty games the liberals play, and he's had six years time to do it. On top of all the various Houses of Leglislatures and the Executive Branch, we also have the majority of conservative Governors in America. It does no good my friend, because the judiciary have picked the pockets of the lawmakers and pronounced themselves to be kings, men who have the FINAL SAY.

And there are enough of these pagan judges all over our country to stand this country on its ear, as it's been doing for at least three decades now. Once they began stripping our religion and religious symbols off of all public lands I think that should have been a very large cue that something real bad is coming down the road for us.

365 posted on 03/28/2005 12:08:44 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: lawdude
I'm very upset about what happening to Terri, but i realize protesting in front of a hospice isn't going to change the fact a judge, a lawyer and her "husband" want to kill her. i know what caused this cant be changed in the immediate, but we should keep this from ever happening again. at this point i know the culture of death has blindsided us with this, and it appears they have won this battle.
366 posted on 03/28/2005 2:59:28 AM PST by blackeagle
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To: blackeagle

People are now nut cases because they believe in prayer and the sanctity of life?
I would rather have this person praying for me than some nut case from the left supporting me.


367 posted on 03/28/2005 3:24:17 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: blackeagle
You are right, the culture of death has won this battle, but they have not won the war. There is nothing more that can be done, and I just wish that the protesters would go home like Terri's parents want.
368 posted on 03/28/2005 3:31:00 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mariabush
They have done all they can do. They paved the road for the federal courts to hear this case to no avail but this case is only the beginning of things to come. The left wishes to use this case to redefine life. As for Greer, some are reporting it has been said Greer is a Christian Conservative. No, he is not a Conservative nor can Greer claim to be a Christian if he does not believe in the sanctity of life.
Prayerfully, this will help to clean out the courts and judges who rule on the Constitutional rights of the Individuals will replace these men in black who have usurped Terri's Constitutional Rights.
369 posted on 03/28/2005 3:33:34 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: TheCrusader

Basically, everything you said there is true, but we have those majorities in name only in too many of those cases. We have those North eastern RINOS and a number from elsewhere, who treasure the status quo as much or more than the Dems, because they believe in the crap that has been forced upon us by the activist Judges, that they and their Dem allies could never have legislated into existance. Then Lott is dumped from Senate leadership, only to be replaced by Lott lite-Bill Frist.

We desperately need to maintain and increase our majority , while at the same time pruning the dead wood.


370 posted on 03/28/2005 8:21:13 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Hillary Rodhamclinton is phonier than a three dollar bill clinton.)
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To: John Lenin
John WHO JUST SIGNED UP ?

And why should this be a troll thread.

Dont you suppose i posted this to point out the foolishness of the women.

And the woman could be a Republican but she could be a Democrat and she could be a Nader supporter or a libertarian or not vote at all. She might be Pro Abortion.
Who cares who the woman is i know one thing that She is wrong to blame the Bush Brothers.
371 posted on 03/30/2005 5:56:41 AM PST by gwb43_2004
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To: BeforeISleep; All

I say both..


372 posted on 03/30/2005 5:58:35 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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