Posted on 03/27/2005 10:07:36 AM PST by churchillbuff
Michael Schiavo Plans to Cremate Terri
Michael Schiavo has taken steps that will prevent investigators from examining Terri Schiavo's body for evidence of abuse after she dies – a suspicion her family has repeatedly raised as her death grows more imminent.
Schiavo's attorney George Felos told the Washington Post on Friday that Terri will be cremated and buried in a plot owned by Michael's family in Pennsylvania.
Terri's parents had filed a request with the court to block the cremation plans, saying it would violate the religious beliefs of their daughter, who was a practicing a Catholic.
But as with every other motion filed in the case on behalf of Bob and Mary Schindler, the Florida courts have rejected the request.
A 1991 bone scan performed on Terri Schiavo showed unexplained injuries to her vertebrae and legs.
Terri's brother, Bobby Schindler, told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" on Thursday that a doctor has testified that she might have been strangled before she was found unconscious in her home in February 1990.
I didn't say that God can't raise a cremated person to life. I said that cremation can SIGNIFY a lack of BELIEF in the Resurrection.
I'm checking, I heard that he was a therapist and later became a nurse.
- Fox News - don't remember if it was from friend or foe of the family.
True, and we all have heard of people who do this, but it's more difficult to do when the body of the late beloved is gone and out of sight.
However..doesn't the Church make a big thing about relics of the saints, i.e. having items from the dead on display and housed in glass vials etc. for veneration. These saints are not God and praying to saints is sorta like what your referring to...
I'm not a Catholic (though I am actively studying the faith) so I'm not the ideal authority on this. But there is a difference between venerating the relic of some saint--that is, holding it in high respect as a holy thing, a reminder of the admirable life of a saint who did great works because his or her whole existence was in obedience to the Lord--and worshipping the object, which we are not meant to do.
However that teaching has no Biblical foundations.
People are by nature superstitious, and without a good deal of education they're prone to take a basically sound Biblical teaching and go off on their own tangent. I'm finding that a lot of Catholic teaching has logic to it and is worth talking about or even considering as a valid viewpoint. We Protestants can't just offhand dismiss everything as blind superstition (though I know you are not doing this).
" Yes, I have read them. But read the reasoning behind it. You guys seem to overlook that."
What is the reasoning behind Judge Greer forbidding RNs from giving Terri soft food or water ?
You put the cart before the horse. Everything that is in the Bible was at one time a tradition. For instance, everyting about the Christian Faith that is in the letters of Saint Paul was handed down to Paul by the apostles and other Christians--i.e., everything Saint Paul taught came to him as a tradition.
The notion that the Bible contains the truth revealed by God is a tradition.
Probably not. Meant well, said he would.
As the situation drug on, the split between the Schiavo's and Schindler's got bigger, and so changing it to them being money hungry mother and father, wanting to cash in on their daughter's disability, and that Michael bravely and justly refused to split any of his sexual loss money, is how he rationalized it.
Michael is not the monster. More like puppet.
I'm waiting as well for your elaboration on this comment. Are you saying there are NO plans to cremate her?
Or, if there are such plans, why are objections to the cremation considered "BS"?
I just wondered what the FROW (Free Republic Order of Women) thought of this. (mistakes of gender by screenname are not the fault of da postee!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371805/posts?page=368#368
I just went up the thread some to see the exchange.
I do believe that discussion was moot a while ago.
When MS and company were going to move Terri to the hospice, the parents went on record saying MS could keep all the monies if they could take Terri home.
This is when the talking points from MS changed to there is no money.
::this is a crude recall from off the top of my head::
If you can't figure out what's going on here, heaven help you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Theo Roeloffzen
To: Lady Clonard ; Joseph Guijarro de Clonard ; Joseph Guijarro de Clonard ; Joseph Earl Sutton de Clonard
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 1:00 PM
Dear family,
I wish you all an happy Easter, and the blessings of Jesus Christ our Lord in the combat against the people who are poisoned from satan.
Very touching. There are people all over the world who love God, life, freedom, and justice. We're not alone.
the Schindlers supported Michael financially, and may have paid some or all of Terri's expenses. When Michael got the money, and didn't start spending it on Terri, Bob asked him about it. Michael reacted defensively, to the surprise of Bob. This was the first indication Bob had that Michael intended to keep the money for himself. He knew Michael, and trusted him. He simply could not believe what he was hearing.In the confusion of the moment, Bob may have said something like "Well what about the money you owe me?" He probably had a lot of questions about the man he thought he knew. "Was everything you ever told me just one big lie?"
If Bob did ask about the money Michael owed him, it wasn't important enough for him to even remember it. As far as he was concerned, the conversation was about him wanting Michael to get therapy for Terri, and Michael revealing that he was going to keep all the money for himself.
As far as Michael was concerned, the conversation was about Bob trying to get some of the money that he wanted to keep for himself. It didn't matter what Bob wanted the money for (Terri or himself.) The point was, Bob stood between Michael and the money.
Michael either exagerated the importance of a casual statement by Bob (it wouldn't necessarily be the 1st time Michael exagerated the importance of a casual statement), or he made it up out of whole cloth (that wouldn't be a 1st either).
In light of the fact that Michael never did allow Terri any therapy after the settlement, Bob's version of the conversation is credible. Michael indicated he wasn't going to spend the money on therapy for Terri. Michael isn't going to tell everybody that he said that. He had to invent a conversation in which Bob is to blame for the argument.
In light of the fact that Bob spent his life savings (and then some) and years of his life pursuing therapy and the right to life for Terri, never pursued repayment of the money Michael owed him, never pursued guardianship of Terri's estate, and never pursued guardianship of Terri until all the money was reportedly gone, Michael's statement that the argument was over Bob wanting money for himself is not credible.
Whoa, slow down there sweety. I'm so dizzy I fant rype.
Thank you for sharing those beautiful thoughts and prayer with us. In the midst of so much evil, God's children continue to spread His love, while condemning evil. Words such as these have helped to sustain me. These words are the manifestation of God's love, that has given me the armor to fend off the evil being flung by Satan's minions. I continue to pray that their souls, which were stolen by Satan or willingly given, will be returned to God, where they belong.
"LOL. One of the worst parts of all this is the fact that that sneaky sleazoid thinks he got over on everyone. His brother is nearly as diabolical. Just looking at him makes me feel like giving him a couple of knuckle sandwiches."
He and his whole perverted cabal are in mortal danger. The sands in their hourglass have begun to run. God is just, heard the prayers of millions, and will bring justice on these cads.
"When he finally succeeds in killing Terri after 15 years and this is over, he better find a couple of aliases for the rest of his miserable life."
He better get a good supply of bullet proof vests.
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