Posted on 03/27/2005 7:33:55 AM PST by mhking
Just for those who dare crack a southern joke, Union City is one of the most corrupt, and liberal/socialist parts of URBAN Atlanta.
Once her hands were tied, there was no way she could strangle herself on a gown even if it were made of chain mail. You are attempting to excuse the inexcusable.
She was restrained because she tried to strangle herself. The person I was responding to stated that she couldn't strangle herself with those paper gowns. She could. The restraint occurred after the attempt to strangle herself with her braids and the gown. I am not real sympathetic to this DRUG ADDICT who has been arrested NUMEROUS TIMES BEFORE. Had she not taken whatever action she took to CAUSE her arrest, and not made such an ass out of herself once she was arrested, then she wouldn't have found herself in the position to start with. I default to the police officer. To hell with lying drug addicts.
This county is something else. Chicago used to strip search female arrestees on traffic charges but nothing thie stupid.
What makes you think they were "in on it together?"
don't worry about it...it was a joke I missed totally and completely on a bad day ok? All is well...
"Possibly in this case, for some of the prisoners, its not like they caught a glimpse of something they haven't seen before."
-That's nasty (but funny as hell).
What lawyer isn't!!!
If you are going to come down on the side of the law in some cases, you have to in all cases (or else defy the law and hope the legislature is sympathetic enough not to impeach).
She doesn't deserve a penny as no damages were caused that she didn't cause herself.
She wanted to rebel against all authority, even to the point of attempting to take her own life. Those with authority apparantly performed sequentially more constraining efforts to insure she didn't harm herself or others within the logistical support they were afforded.
Lesson to be learnt is that if one doesn't want to lose control over their behavior, then they need to discipline themselves regarding their behavior without forcing others to intervene and control it for them.
If it were a perfect world, a countersuit would ensue requiring her to repay all taxpayers and the law enforcement officers for her encroachment upon our property and civil rights. I suspect some men's souls might have been irreparably damaged by having to view her naked.
I did the paper towel test. It took six before I had trouble pulling them apart and ten of the ones at work which are about the strength of one of those paper gowns.
Sorry, don't buy it.
But even if it was some sort of super strong paper gown there was no need to leave her uncovered after she was restrained in the chair.
There is no way to compare your paper towel test with mine. I wasn't there for yours, and you weren't there for mine. Plus, I don't know what kind you used and you don't know what kind I used. A paper gown provides a lot of paper. The more paper that can be twisted, the stronger the resulting "rope" will be. Plus, the paper wouldn't have to support her full weight if she were sitting on the floor with her neck restricted enough to choke her. Now, that being said, she did try to strangle herself, according to reports. Therefore, they took the device with which she was trying to strangle herself away, and I believe they also cut her hair because she was trying to strangle herself with her braids. Also, we do not know what kind of relationship the accusing officer had with his fellow police officer. Maybe he saw it as an opportunity to get rid of her for some past wrong. Maybe not. We do not know. Since we do not know, I believe a police officer ANY DAY over a drug addict. If the officer behaved inappropriately I would not object to her being fired. I do not believe this useless piece of trash drug addict deserves one cent from the taxpayers of the community involved. She put herself in the position to begin with by A) being arrested and B) acting like a complete imbecile.
A minute later, Anthony, the jailer, and Adams, the nurse, went into the cage, took off the paper gown and placed Perdue "in the restraint chair nude," Hall's report said.
They took her gown off of her. That means that she was not trying to make some sort of McGyver noose out of it. Otherwise it would read that they took the gown away from her.
When you are holding something they take it away, when you are wearing something they take it off.
This was investigated. People were fired.
Even in the days when we used the stocks we didn't put them in naked.
There is more then one police officer quoted in the report. More then one tried to intervene. They thought it was wrong to do this. So you can take the side of the jailer and nurse who engaged in inappropriate behavior but you can not take the side of the police officers who were the witnesses.
You have all but called the police officers who witnessed this liars. That it happened is not in dispute. That it was wrong is not in dispute. How much, if anything she should get is.
I did not call anyone a liar. I said we don't know because we weren't there. I also said that if the officer behaved inappropriately then I have no problem with her being fired. That being said, this lady doesn't deserve one cent from the county. She owns some blame here.
To the extent that if she had not been drunk in public she would not have been in the jail yes. However we expect minimum standards of professional conduct from our employees even for drunks.
The employer shares responsibility when a employee goes off the rails on the job because they are acting in their name.
What happened here is NOT in question.
What if anything she should get is the question. You say nothing because you don't approve of her. I think she is owed something, but not much, because some of the blame is hers but the reaction was excessive.
yes, if the union doesn't defend these actions.
Right there you just called the police officers who gave witness and the one who wrote the report liars.
You doubt their word but do not doubt the word of a out of control jailer. Interesting.
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