Posted on 03/26/2005 10:15:14 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet
BEIJING — China warned Sunday that Taiwan is stirring "new tension" with Beijing, a day after hundreds of thousands of Taiwanese marched in protest against the communist mainland's threats to take their self-ruling island by force.
Vowing never to back down, China said via government media that it stood by its controversial anti-secession law passed March 14, which authorizes an attack on Taiwan if the island moves toward formal independence.
"The extreme Taiwan independence secessionists have been malevolently distorting the principles of the law to misguide the Taiwan people and instigate antagonism and create new tension across the Taiwan Strait," the commentary said. It was printed in official newspapers and read on state television.
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You can almost lose track of the number of countries that are out to blow each other up. We are going to have to start a betting pool just to help us keep count.
The tin pot Communist Party bullies can go pound sand. Taiwan isn't going to back down. Only those who know freedom can understand and those who oppress can never comprehend.
A change for the better is in the air. However, with it, comes the mixed smell of blood from fallen heroes, and stench from decomposed tyrants.
Taiwan needs the threat of having a doomsday device. That is probably the only way they will ever stop China.
Unfortunately, very few countries recognise Taiwan as an independent democracy. I wonder how the United States views it. Anybody out here who knows? I think the UN considers it as a province of China.
One kiloton nuclear bomb and one missile pointed at Beijing or Shanghai, provided to Taiwan, will make the Chinese stop on their tracks.
"Taiwan was settled by people of Malay-Polynesian descent ... Taiwan has never been an integral part of China."
That is true but this sort of argument would easily be shot down by using the example of European colonization of the Americas. The Malay-Polynesian people were there before the Han, but Han have still been on the Island for quite a long time - probably at least as long as people of European descent have been in America. The real point is that Taiwan has never been an integral part of China and in fact has been under seperate governments from the mainland for 110 years now. For the 230 years previous to that, under the Ching dynasty, it was for the most part neglected or even actively supressed as a haven for pirates and anti-Ching rebels. Considering the treatment that Taiwanese have historically recieved at the hands of the various governments on the mainland, who could blame them for wanting nothing to do with it?
ping!
You are right. Just like US, native Indians. So what are you? (or us?)
>>Considering the treatment that Taiwanese have historically recieved at the hands of the various governments on the mainland, who could blame them for wanting nothing to do with it?
This is not true. The most important element in Chinese culture is root. More than 90% of today's Taiwan residents have roots in China. They don't want independant, they don't want to be separated from the motherland. Taiwan is part of China, everybody agrees. The point here is "Taiwan is not part of PRC." Has never been and does not want to. If China is a free non-communist government, Taiwan would wants to go back to China in no time.
Very interesting you posted this. There is no justice in this world, only benefits to fit one's own need. Even our good old USA abandoned her own friend and embraces for the benefits of Walmart, Big 3, Hollywood, Oil companies, Boeing, Coca Cola, Big Mac, and all good old fortune 1000. We all benefit, right? To hell with Taiwan, a tiny island that helped us during the Vietnam war.
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Chuck fina!
<< Taiwan needs the threat of having a doomsday device.
That is probably the only way it will ever stop China. >>
They have a doomsday device.
It is called the United States of America.
And it and we will stop "china."
Dead!
Response to post #12:
Read what I wrote. I didn't say that they didn't want to be Chinese. I said that they wanted nothing to do with the government on the mainland. There is ethnicity and then there is political identity - they are not the same. Most Singaporeans are Chinese but have no interest in being part of China. I believe that somewhere around 80% of Taiwanese came before Chiang Kai Shek - these are the people and the anscestors of people who lived in Taiwan when it was traded off to Japan for peace over a war having nothing to do with Taiwan, who lived in Taiwan while Taiwan was ignored or suppressed by the rulers on the mainland for 230 years. If it weren't for 40 or 50 years of forced nationalist indoctrination the indentification with the mainland would be very weak. As it stands, democracy and the opening up of Taiwanese society has led to a greater identification with Taiwanese culture (which previously was violently suppressed for many years under nationalist rule) and less identification with the mainland and the idea of a greater China. More and more Taiwanese consider themselves to be ethnic Chinese who are citizens of the country of Taiwan. The indentification with the "motherland" is weak and growing weaker and that is why the PRC is nervous.
"They don't want independant, they don't want to be separated from the motherland."
Tell that to the PRC - they are currently aiming 700 missles at the people of Taiwan and threatening war to remind them that they shouldn't declare independence. Also, recall that the DPP candidate got over 50% of the vote in the most recent presidential election (up from ~35% of the vote in the previous election.) You can be sure than almost none of these people who voted for Abien are against the idea of independence. On the other hand, you can be sure that many who voted for the KMT candidate, did so not because they are opposed to independence but because they are afraid of war with the PRC. Your statement is obviously incorrect and even the PRC knows it, as indicated by their words and actions. I suspect that if there wasn't the threat of war a significant majority of Taiwanese would want independence and that is precisely why the PRC makes the threat.
"Big 3"
You mean the Big 2 and that german company?
Somebody oughta tell the Fascist Chinese to STFU.
Way back when, Taiwan was an abode of pirates that China could do nothing about. But, China didn't want a European colonial power, a distinct possibility, setting up shop in Taiwan. Denying Taiwan to China's potential enemies could well be the strategic reason for China's insistence on their hegemony over the island.
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