"WELCOME TO THE REAL AMERICA WHERE CRIMINALS GET TO BE
CELEBRITIES AND CELEBRITIES GET AWAY WITH MURDER."
"TO DIE FOR" Columbia Pictures
Posted on 03/26/2005 9:51:58 PM PST by exliberal
Here's what I found on Cheryl Ford's blog.
I had read and easily overlooked little paragraph in the LA times about plans to take Terri that didn't come through last night. I was determined to find out more, as that's all LA Times said about that. Here's the story from Cheryl Ford, RN who is a friend of the family and advocate for keeping Terri alive.
Saturday, March 26, 2005 Police 'showdown' averted Comments From Ford: I spoke to Mary Schindler last night. She is being forced to watch her daughter die. This mother will have in her memories, a daughter who was not taken from this earth by natural causes, instead was taken from this earth as a result of murder. How can our government not step in and stop judicial homicide?
Michael Schiavo won't allow Terri's cousins or extended family who have flown into the area in to visit Terri. He continues control over the visitor list. The family is understandably very upset. Michael has the Schindlers' leave their daughters bedside every time he arrives because he refuses to be in the room with them. Then, he takes his time in the room with Terri, so they have less time with her. They were not able to visit with Terri for 12 hours on Thursday. Will someone explain to me why is it that Jack Kvorkian is in prison, and Michael Schiavo walks away a free man?
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11233240.htm
Posted on Sat, Mar. 26, 2005
Police 'showdown' averted
BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER cmarbin@herald.com
Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.
Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.
For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''
In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.
''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.
''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''
The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS
Participants in the high-stakes test of wills, who spoke with The Herald on the condition of anonymity, said they believed the standoff could ultimately have led to a constitutional crisis and a confrontation between dueling lawmen.
''There were two sets of law enforcement officers facing off, waiting for the other to blink,'' said one official with knowledge of Thursday morning's activities.
In jest, one official said local police discussed ``whether we had enough officers to hold off the National Guard.''
''It was kind of a showdown on the part of the locals and the state police,'' the official said. ``It it was not too long after that Jeb Bush was on TV saying that, evidently, he doesn't have as much authority as people think.''
State officials on Friday vigorously denied the notion that any ''showdown'' occurred.
''DCF directed no such action,'' said agency spokeswoman Zoraya Suarez.
Said Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre: ``There was no showdown. We were ready to go. We didn't want to break the law. There was a process in place and we were following the process. The judge had an order and we were following the order.''
Tim Caddell, a spokesman for the city of Pinellas Park, declined to discuss Thursday's events.
SHELTER FOR SCHIAVO
The developments that set Thursday morning's events in motion began the previous afternoon, when the governor and DCF chief Lucy Hadi held an impromptu news conference to announce they were considering sheltering Schiavo under the state's adult protection law. DCF has been besieged, officials say, by thousands of calls alleging Schiavo is the victim of abuse or neglect.
Alerted by the Bush administration that Schiavo might be on her way to their facility, officials at Morton Plant Hospital went to court themselves Wednesday, asking Circuit Judge George Greer, who ordered the removal of Schiavo's feeding tube last week, what to do.
''It's an extraordinary situation,'' said Beth Hardy, a hospital spokeswoman. ``I don't think any of us has seen anything like it. Ever.''
Greer signed an order Wednesday afternoon forbidding DCF from ''taking possession of Theresa Marie Schiavo or removing her'' from the hospice. He directed ''each and every and singular sheriff of the state of Florida'' to enforce his order.
But Thursday, at 8:15 a.m., DCF lawyers appealed Greer's order to judges at the Second District Court of Appeal in Lakeland.
That created the window of time to seize Schiavo. When DCF filed its appeal, it effectively froze the judge's Wednesday order. It took nearly three hours before the judge found out and canceled the automatic stay, shortly before 11 a.m.
Administrators of the 72-bed hospice, who have endured a withering siege of their facility by protesters since Greer ordered Schiavo's feeding tube removed on March 18, declined to discuss Thursday morning's events in any detail.
''I don't really know, or pretend to know, the specifics of what is going on behind the scenes,'' said Mike Bell, a spokesman for Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, which operates Woodside.
DCF INTENTIONS
According to sources, DCF intended to take Schiavo to Morton Plant Hospital, where her feeding tube had been reinserted in 2003 following a previous judicial order allowing its removal. But hospice officials were aware that the hospital was not likely to perform surgery to reinsert the tube without an order from Greer.
''People knew that taking [Schiavo] did not equate with immediate reinsertion of the feeding tube,'' a source said. ``Hospital officials were working with their legal counsel and their advisors, trying to figure out which order superseded which, and what action they should take.''
Hardy, the hospital spokeswoman, said she does not believe the hospital was made aware Thursday morning that DCF and state police planned to bring Schiavo in. ''We were not aware of that three-hour period,'' she said. ``It's not a discussion we even had, really.''
George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, said he does not think DCF officials knew of the window of opportunity they had created until well after they filed their appeal.
''Frankly, I don't believe when they filed their notice of appeal they realized that that gave them an automatic stay,'' Felos said. ``When we filed our motion to vacate the automatic stay . . . they realized they had a short window of opportunity and they wanted to extend that as long as they could.
``I believe that as soon as DCF knew they had an opportunity, they were mobilizing to take advantage of it, without a doubt.''
posted by Fight4Terri @ 8:35 AM
"Almost Saved"....guess that 'almost' is good if you're playing horseshoes or tossing hand-grenades, but what's a life worth these days?
that cartoon is low....how shallow can people get?
My email to Gov. Bush (at jeb.bush@myflorida.com)
Dear Governor Bush:
I am not a resident of your state, but I support your doing everything in your power to save Terri Schiavo. Although I am concerned with Terri's case on humanitarian grounds, I suggest that you look at this from a political perspective. I am afraid that if you do not act to save Terri, this will
have political repercussions for you down the line. If you have any ambitions whatsoever toward the Presidency, I believe you need to save Terri today. I frequently read the posts on FreeRepublic.com (I am sure you are familiar with this site), and what I am seeing there is an increased number of people expressing extreme disappointment with you, and saying that they no longer believe you are Presidential material. I think you are aware that the sort of people who post on FreeRepublic.com are your "base," and that they have long memories. They are the sort of people who don't forget, and do not forgive what they perceive as moral lapses.
To clarify my own perspective, I would like to mention that I am a Buddhist, not a Christian. I believe strongly in the right to self-determination, and since Terri has not been credibly proven to have specifically asked to be starved to death, I believe it is our duty as a humane society to give her the bare necessities of life, food and water. I campaigned for and voted for your brother in the last election, and I expect to be voting Republican in the next Presidential election.
I hope you will reconsider your stance in this matter, and do whatever it takes to save Terri Schiavo.
Yours sincerely,
you should investigate the Bible a little more before you conclude such a thing, that cartoon is pretty much applying a quote from Jesus to a literal example of someone being refused water and food. fair game in my opinion
Still a sick individual to draw such a conclusion in cartoon form.
Think about it. If money were the principal motivation, then the hospice would fight to keep her alive indefinately.
Is there a legal reason why the hospital should have kept everything hush hush? Futhermore, what list of murderers are you keeping, and what do you intend to use it for?
Uh...presuming you really did donate money to feed the children, what did the children do to make them lose your support? If you're doing it to get back at Felos for saying it's a peaceful death, as you say, does it really make sense for you to harm the children to spite Felos? Do you really think such an action would even phase him in the least?
Jeb's FBI file may be among the several hundred stolen by democrats in the last administration. That might explain a great deal.
You've synopsized the situation well and succinctly. Best description I've in hundreds of posts. And the single word that epitomizes your description is Auchwitz.
It's interesting to note that it's now being reported Terri is being given morphine to ease pain. Now let me see, in the HINO/Felos suit, didn't they base their petition on her PVS or coma condition and that she can't/doesn't feel pain, that it would be a very peaceful death? Yet the hospice has decided she needs morphine for pain. Shades of the hospice Exit Protocol Cheryl Ford, RN posted at:
http://www.discardedlies.com/entries/2005/02/how_terris_hospice_plans_to_cover_up_the_horrible_agony_of_her_brutal_murder.php
What's wrong here -- as if I didn't know !! All of what the gullible MSM accepted as gospel truth from Felos and spoonfed/reported to naive listeners IS A DAMN LIE !!! Terri is being executed, the general public has been mislead and one element of the HINO/Felos fraud on the court is revealed. Now if only that fraud could save Terri.
AP reports at both the washingtontimes.com
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050327-123600-3314r.htm
and the Nevada Appeal
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRAIN_DAMAGED_WOMAN?SITE=NVCAP&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
have nearly identical wording in their current reports about Terri's condition as of about 1:36 AM EST on Mar 27.
> Family supporters said Mrs. Schiavo's breathing became increasingly labored during
> the day. An attorney for the Schindlers, Barbara Weller, said hospice workers began
> giving morphine to Mrs. Schiavo to ease pain brought on by her body's failure.
What kind of work do you do in a hospital?
I forgot the sarcasm tags. I was making a point....I am sorry about the tags.
I watched Felos' news conference yesterday and watched as the reporters fawned all over him. It was like they were worshipping him and adoring him and he was lapping it up.
I watched in horror but wanted to see for myself how the press would react. It was like he was a huge celebrity and they were in awe of him. (Satanic to the max.)
FINALLY, one female reporter challenged him on the fact that the Schindler's were going to be excluded from memorial services for their daughter. She said something like "Can't you give them that at least?" To which the monster replied that they had called his client a murderer, etc., so the judge ruled that they have no right in that area. Anyone with half a heart watching it was horrified.
God bless the Schindler's and give them peace. Amen.
If there is a hell, Greer belongs there..... forever!
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and this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371099/posts
post # 22
"How can our government not step in and stop judicial homicide?"
"Judicial homocide"..That is a phrase which will become commonplace..
"WELCOME TO THE REAL AMERICA WHERE CRIMINALS GET TO BE
CELEBRITIES AND CELEBRITIES GET AWAY WITH MURDER."
"TO DIE FOR" Columbia Pictures
How come I suspect that had these same people been reporters in the 50s they would have lauded Eisenhower sending troops to Little Rock and rather than calling it a constitution crisis they would have called it a blow for freedom?
T.S. Eliot, but it is still March.
I was replying to comment 27 regarding all the bad things that has happened in the month of April and the Easter connection. Thanks for the cite.
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