To: Noachian
But, as in chess, you need to look several moves ahead.
Suppose Jeb did go in and save Terri, than the FL Courts would convict him of contempt of court, of overstepping his authority and a dozen other charges, would arrest and convict him and of course grab Terri and pull out the feeding tube again. Terri would still be murdered, and we would lose a great Republican governor and potential president.
I am sure Jeb did look at all the possible legal actions he could take, it's just that over the years, the power of the executive branch has been clipped severely and the power of the judiciary branch has become virtually absolute -- both in state and Federal governments.
To: FairOpinion
I am sure Jeb did look at all the possible legal actions he could take, it's just that over the years, the power of the executive branch has been clipped severely and the power of the judiciary branch has become virtually absolute -- both in state and Federal governments.
Let me ask you something. If Bill Clinton had been in this circumstance and he decided to grab Terri Schiavo, do you think he would have been impeached? Even with a Republican congress, there's not a chance in the world. Neither would Jeb or G. W. There's no excuse for their inaction and when Terri dies, they will be morally culpable.
48 posted on
03/26/2005 9:16:53 PM PST by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: FairOpinion
Suppose Jeb did go in and save Terri, than the FL Courts would convict him of contempt of court, of overstepping his authority and a dozen other charges
Do you believe that the average American, once appraised of the real situation, would support what the courts are doing to Terry?
If you do, then perhaps we are a nation of pond scum destine for self destruction. But, if not, then you need not worry about anything that these courts do, or say, or declare, or legislate, or proclaim on this issue. They have no legitimacy, and no power, beyond what we the people are willing to yield to them. Greer and his ilk can screech like france at a UN security council meeting; and, the only difference would be that we can bring Greer and his kind to justice.
53 posted on
03/26/2005 9:21:57 PM PST by
ARCADIA
(Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
To: FairOpinion
...than the FL Courts would convict him of contempt of court, of overstepping his authority and a dozen other charges, would arrest and convict him ... You're drawing a scenario of a system with a Judiciary having ultimate powers to arrest and convict the Executive, which is a coequal branch of government.
Maybe in the future they may have that much power, but not today.
Separation of powers makes what you suggest impossible, because the Judiciary has no means to carry out its findings. On the other hand both the Legislature, and the Executive Branches have the ability to arrest judges.
So, what would happen if Jeb went in and grabbed Terri? I mean besides the Liberals whining? Nothing. There'd be a few weeks of MSM head banging, ACLU teeth gnashing, and CNN telling us that "the end of the Republic is near", but then life would go on and Terri would be alive.
54 posted on
03/26/2005 9:24:35 PM PST by
Noachian
(To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
To: FairOpinion
"Suppose Jeb did go in and save Terri, than the FL Courts would convict him of contempt of court, of overstepping his authority and a dozen other charges, would arrest and convict him and of course grab Terri and pull out the feeding tube again. Terri would still be murdered, and we would lose a great Republican governor and potential president. " Who has authority over the State National Guards...The State Courts? I think not. It's the Govenor of the state. He who has the guns is the winner.
To: FairOpinion
Suppose Jeb did go in and save Terri, than the FL Courts would convict him of contempt of court, of overstepping his authority and a dozen other charges, would arrest and convict him and of course grab Terri and pull out the feeding tube again. I have been posting this ad nauseum for days to try to get thru to the "bash Jeb" crowd - if he got her, it would be only temporary, he'd be arrested, and state law would allow them to grab her back in about 3 days - so do you people want her brought back to a realization stage only to start the whole barbaric process over again?
Unless you finger pointers to the good guys instead of the real culprits are Constitutional lawyers that know something the other ones don't' - bug off
117 posted on
03/26/2005 11:32:40 PM PST by
maine-iac7
("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
To: FairOpinion
If Jeb can't face down a probate judge, how will he handle a real dictator with a real army?
Jeb, like Santorum backing Specter over Toomey, choked when he had a chance to do the right thing. They both have put political considerations ahead of principle. Both ruined their political futures, but it is best that they revealed themselves now for neither are presidential timber.
133 posted on
03/27/2005 12:58:06 AM PST by
Badray
(Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
To: FairOpinion
Gilmore was sued for some of those things after trying to save Hugh Finn, and later, after Hugh was killed with dehdyration, Gilmore was exonerated.
Wonder if Jeb even noticed?
136 posted on
03/27/2005 1:21:36 AM PST by
MarMema
("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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