Report: Jeb Sent Agents to Rescue Terri

News Max ^ | March 26, 2005 | News Max Wire

[HoundsTooth_BP]

If Terri can't eat or drink, why arrest children trying to give her anything? What are they afraid of? Why can't we see pictures of this wonderful dying process since it is so pretty? Or would this horrible starvation bring sympathy and shed the light of truth on this chilling process that not even a terrorist is subjected to. No doubt these judges will remember and feel this pain in the darkest place in HELL.

[Cherokee Conservative]

I imagine Bush is a little worried about the end result though. Do they get in a shoot out? I guess it all depends on who is more loyal to their "boss", and what the political leanings are of the law enforcement involved in the standoff, etc. There's a possibility it could go bad, go nowhere, or the right side would give up. You have to admit it's a pretty big thing to order force against force with both sides having guns and orders they think they have to follow.

[monkeywrench]

I agree. That's why strong leaders are needed. The arrogance of the other side, in their mocking and threats to Gov. Bush (our elected) need answered somehow.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "So you're saying we're hosed no matter what we do....judges will always be corrupt no matter who is appointed to the bench? That's discouraging."

No that is not what I am saying at all. I am saying is the courts can be tamed in a week with 51% of Congress deciding that is what they want to do. No super majority required such as required by impeachment. What I am saying is they WILL not do so. If you are looking for the court to be "fixed" it can happen and much much faster than this notion of nominations are the answer.

I have been posting these suggestions all over the place but here they go again:

1. Contempt of Congress for Judge Greer.
2. Hearings on Judicial abuses (they got time for baseball)
3. Cutting the budget for judicial staffing
4. Redistricting of the Federal Courts, Eliminate a few seats while creating new ones and you can give a few judges their pink slip.
5. Cut benefits to the judiciary.

None of these are beyond Congress's power, in fact they deal with these things all the time, they do not have to even go near impeachment. That would be the best course but the GOP is cowardly. No super majority is required, and hearings don’t even require even a simple majority since it is traditional to hold hearing to placate the minority. So why will we see none of the above?

I think they might be behind all of this. The Shiavo Solution to Social Security. Remember Roe v Wade was on Nixon's watch and this is on Bush. I no longer think that is an accident.

The really hopeless notion in my message is the GOP is largely to blame, what we need is a third party to gain power. Even that will take less time than the current situation of relying on nominations of "good" judges. The GOP was formed in the 1850's and had control of two branches of government in less than 12 years, it could happen again. But that assumes the elections are not complete frauds.

[BurtTpa]

speaking of churches in clearwater.
the blog about greer , clearwater bar assoc ,and the Scientology connection was pulled . i wonder if someone in clearwater is monitoring us.

[Mark in the Old South]

They will weep what they sow. I will not feel sorry for them and I will not defend them if things get out of hand.

[Lancey Howard]

You send in a huge contingent of the biggest, burliest state police you can find and brush the locals aside. You march into Schiavo's room, with a competent nurse and doctor in tow, you get the woman hooked up, and you get her out of there.

Does anybody truly believe there would be a gunfight? That local cops would open fire on state police?? Please.... Some people watch too much TV.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "i wonder if someone in clearwater is monitoring us."

I am sure someone is. But to get a Thread pulled requires cooperation from the people in control of Free Republic.

[HoundsTooth_BP]

Maybe I watch too much 24, but I believe it could be done with a very few properly equipped and motivated individuals. Hey, most cops are afraid of criminals, so surely big powerful State Militia guys could easily get it done and then these locals cops could write out the reports. Maybe no guts is the problem.

[Wallace T.]

FWIW, The mother of Michael Schiavo's common law wife works as a police dispatcher.

The Pinellas Park PD officers and the sheriff's deputies are not stupid, even if they also not honorable. (Were they honorable, they would have turned in their badges and guns rather than be the protectors of the judicially sanctioned execution of Terri Schiavo.) They recognize that the judiciary is de facto the supreme branch of the state and Federal governments. They are also not under the command of Governor Bush. Past history indicates that those who defy judges lose their jobs and possibly their freedom. Defying Judge Greer may have a high price; the same cannot be said for defying Governor Bush.

The Governor will have to use the National Guard. These local and county cops may want to protect their jobs, but they are also not suicidal.

[Free_at_last_-2001]

Now, don't make fun of me for asking that. I'm serious, are there examples of this since the civil war?

I would not attempt to make fun of you. And yes you are probably right America has not suffered what the rest of the world has suffered and so you would not see examples since the civil war. You are lucky to be an American. But times are changing, while America brought freedom to other lands the enemies of America carried on within, their time was short, but intelligent politicians do not just look at American history they look at world history the rise and fall of the Roman Empire for instance. Any American politician will known that the death of Terri will loose support for the Republican party, so much so that they could lose the next presidential election (due to people staying at home and people feeling that a ‘move on.org president would awaken the sheeple’) they have a choice to make – yes they may decide to let Terri die and then come out with a pro Christian agenda (for example the removal of Row –v Wade, try and get the Christians back) but this would ring hollow to the party faithful. But I digress in America you have never seen what is happening and so this is all new to you, in Europe we have seen it before and know where it leads – so too do your elected officials – so the smart move is….?

Perhaps I give your elected officials too much credit!

[The Red Zone]

Jeb could call on Dubya to send in some pretty hairy real military forces... I don't think the Greer Posse would do a thing if they saw a tank or two in Clearwater.

[Cherokee Conservative]

I totally agree with your suggestions. I hadn't seen them before...sorry. I hope they do it, but I agree they probably won't. It's up to us to push them. Scary that some people don't think we should ever criticize our own party though. We used to make fun of the Dems for doing that. No matter what Clinton did, they made excuses for him. We sometimes need to criticize our own party if we want them to change their ways or start listening to us. Regarding judicial nominations - it would help to get through some conservative judges. Their unanimous liberal rulings aren't helping us any.

[The Red Zone]

or... would that violate the Posse Comitatus act? (can't use military as police inside the USA)

[Cherokee Conservative]

So much condescention here. I asked an honest question. I've been interested in others opinions throughout this thread. I don't pretend to have all the answers. And I don't watch TV, so that's not it. :)

If the military went in there in huge numbers, the cops probably would back off. Either that or they'd stand there and point their guns at eachother and no one would get Terri out. Like I said, I'm just trying to avoid being like a liberal and am gathering facts and opions before I go into a rage and hate the Bush's. I'm not disagreeing with anyone.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "Maybe no guts is the problem."

It is my suspicion there was never any intention to do a darn thing other than placate the social conservatives. There is too much money to be raised for the 2006 Congressional seats and the campaigns start in about a year from now. Not much time to get the public to forget.

[Texas Deb]

"The judiciary ussurping power has gone on so long it'll be hard to turn it around. There are an aweful lot of people in this country that think it's supposed to be that way. Especially kids coming out of public schools. They think the judiciary SHOULD have the final say in everything and the executive branch must have their approval for anything. Not only do we have to make sure conservative judges get appointed, we have to make people understand that there is supposed to be a balance of power."

AMEN!

I think most people in this country are so ignorant about the division of powers as they think the judiciary is always the final arbiter and no one can touch them.

The brainwashing has gone on for so long I think it may be too late to turn this train wreck around.

We're being ruled by judicial tyranny and have been for years, and there seems to be a lot of people who think this is okay.

[freeangel]

I would like to be around when he issues a "court order" stating that he shall go to heaven.

[Cherokee Conservative]

Please excuse all my typos. I have low blood sugar and need to eat. Shaking hands type what they want to.

[Gosh I love this neighborhood]

"There's more to this than meets the eye."

"That's what I keep thinking, too. Except WHY would Jeb Bush, who was actually mentioned as a future GOP candidate for President, throw away his future so easily? He couldn't get elected dog-catcher now."

This all made me think of the FBI files that Hitlery has.