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Judge Greer denies Schindler family's last hope to save Terri Schiavo
MSNBC ^ | 3/26/2005 | N/A

Posted on 03/26/2005 9:10:00 AM PST by sockmonkey

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: greer; itsaheckofacountry; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terristarvation2005
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Oh, I understand. There is a difference however between emotion and emotional hysteria.

Also, if you are going to talk about me, I'd appreciate the couresy of a ping. Thanks.


521 posted on 03/26/2005 11:34:21 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: TonyM
Sleeper troll? NO one on a Conservative forum would ever say such a stupid thing unless they were merely posing as a conservative........or temporarily insane.

Which are you?

522 posted on 03/26/2005 11:34:28 AM PST by ohioWfan (Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
So, you think the voters in Florida won't work for change?

I think change can only come through confronting the judicial tyranny that grips our system.

Voters are powerless to stop this with votes.

That's what I believe. But I will admit, I'm extremely emotional right now.

523 posted on 03/26/2005 11:34:37 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (gulag. concentration camp. planned parenthood. hospice. let me know when you find a difference.)
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To: conservlib
At one point we will have no country to defend as we are too preoccupied with the abortion issue.

If the people of the US decide that it's moral to deprive the innocent of life so that we may live as we please there won't be much of a country to worry about.

And I would be reluctant to conclude that a lot of noise on the Schiavo case means there isn't work going on on some of the other issues you mention. I hasten to add, not on all of them.

524 posted on 03/26/2005 11:34:49 AM PST by Mad Dawg (My P226 wants to teach you what SIGnify means ...)
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To: didi

I know I am, but I was venting out of frustration at the past few days.

As I said, I ain't perfect.


525 posted on 03/26/2005 11:35:24 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yes it is. Free Republic is now no better than Democratic Underground. Emotion, hysteria, lies, advocation of violence, and calls for ignoring the constitution abound and are treated as the right and correct thing, while anyone speaking fact, truth, and rationality are scapegoated.

The extreme religious right, a coalition of Keyes/Terry/Klayman/Gritz followers have taken over.

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail after the three ring circus is over in Florida. The bomb-throwers, nutcases and constitution destroyers will move on to the next sideshow of their own making and leave the people here who don't want a dictatorship, left or right in this country!

526 posted on 03/26/2005 11:35:28 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man

I hope so. I really hope so.


527 posted on 03/26/2005 11:35:54 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"So, I shouldn't post any truth at all because poster's emotions are raw? "

You should do what I do, and engage them politely until you have the measure of who you are talking too. Not every one is an Internet warrior such as yourself, some are very young/old/weak/distraught and come here for comfort not debate. If you were half a smart as you think you are you would know that.

528 posted on 03/26/2005 11:36:05 AM PST by jpsb
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To: workerbee

Why did he do that? Do you have a link to the order? I'm just curious as to know why he forbid water by mouth.


529 posted on 03/26/2005 11:36:31 AM PST by axlhuckleberry
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To: Waywardson; HallowThisGround; Perelandra; Broadside

See my #512.

I'm dead serious.


530 posted on 03/26/2005 11:37:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: EternalVigilance
I don't want to take them down.

I'm not sure I believe that, EV.

They're not going to do what you are demanding of them - they don't believe they would be within the law, and they are being advised as such by some of the best legal minds available to them, I'm guessing - so it would seem to me your campaign against them would result in just what you say you don't want.

531 posted on 03/26/2005 11:37:11 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Mr Fairbanks is seeing a lot of hysteria around here. Is anyone else seeing that, or should we just assume that he is hallucinating?
532 posted on 03/26/2005 11:37:40 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Hillary Rodhamclinton is phonier than a three dollar bill clinton.)
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To: rpavlock
... only her crazt lawyer supposedly heard this. Keep facts seperate from fiction.

"She managed to articulate the first two vowel sounds, first articulating AHHHHHHH and then virtually screaming WAAAAAAAA," the motion said. The incident happened in the presence of Schiavo's sister, Suzanne Vitadamo, and an aunt, according to the motion.

533 posted on 03/26/2005 11:38:16 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin; Peach; Poohbah
If he doesn't, I will be leaving the Republican Party and taking as many people with me as possible.

I remember. You're a regular Karl Rove when it comes to whipping up support for your candidates.

Have fun in the wilderness of Peroutkaville, or wherever.

534 posted on 03/26/2005 11:38:19 AM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
They're not going to do what you are demanding of them - they don't believe they would be within the law, and they are being advised as such by some of the best legal minds available to them, I'm guessing - so it would seem to me your campaign against them would result in just what you say you don't want.

They left us no choice, Daughter. That is a fact.

535 posted on 03/26/2005 11:38:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("I thirst.")
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To: sinkspur

Calling all cars, calling all car...


536 posted on 03/26/2005 11:39:20 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (gulag. concentration camp. planned parenthood. hospice. let me know when you find a difference.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell; Chad Fairbanks
Mr Fairbanks is seeing a lot of hysteria around here. Is anyone else seeing that, or should we just assume that he is hallucinating?

A lot of other people are seeing that.

537 posted on 03/26/2005 11:39:31 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Cboldt

Fox showed the judge's comments but I just saw it for a second, but from what I saw, it seems that Judge Greer was saying that this new evidence should have been brought to him at the previous hearing, or something like that---

In other words, either the Schindler's lawyers are incompetent or the judge is making them "seem" incompetent!

Either way, Terri Schiavo and her family are the ones that will pay the price for this "crap" that is taking place in the Florida court system---


538 posted on 03/26/2005 11:39:32 AM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Chief Justice!)
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To: EternalVigilance

May you be satisfied with the result of your actions, EV.


539 posted on 03/26/2005 11:40:05 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Petronski
It's easier to act hysterical than it is to be rational

Try being rational today rather than hysterical.

*****

Btw, Chad, I had a FReeper coming down real hard on Jeb Bush yesterday for being too inactive on the Terri event. He suggested that Jeb had no "courage of his convictions".

I wrote thie following to him.....

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May I comment on your words .....

The 'old media' regrettably is still greatly influential, still effective in molding and creating the opinions of the majority of Americans. For instance, look at the distorted and neatly fashioned polls on the Schiavo issue (ABC's for instance.) The questions were slanted, they were outright fraudulent polls and results. Terri's real condition was consciously misrepresented in the questions of these polls. Then there was the media not presenting Terri's condition from 1990 on, ill-treatment in the hospice, and the rest of the truth of the entire matter.

I've been studying media bias for close to 40 years and am quite aware of the evil power of that bias and the way, in the end, it can destroy a free nation. But media bias and the effectiveness of that bias has never been so clear and obvious than in the (non)coverage of the Terri Schiavo case. Never have I seen a citizenry more ignorant of the facts of a story -- never so incorrectly informed, and never has that bias been so maddening! Not even the citizens' recent ignorance of the real John Kerry or the realities of Rathergate could match this. No news story has made the power of bias more clear than this one.

What I'm trying to say (but saying poorly) is that the American people are so ignorant of the facts of this case, so disinformed that if it were true that Jeb were actually afraid of political ramifications from his actions, it would be easy to see why he were.

But "courage of convictions", as you mention, is another thing. In politics these days "courage of convictions" is nearly an impossibility, especially with a media constituted in the way that it still is today. With a continuing extremely influential left/liberal/socialist/anti-American old media still in place and keeping most of the people ignorant, any courageous act by a conservative to try to rescue Terri is tough to do. Because the media has so very effectively continually distorted Republicans' and others' motives to come to this girl's rescue, every courageous act will be colored in a political way. But that courageous act should be performed anyway, imo.

I think Jeb and the Republicans would win politically in the end if they did the moral thing.

But, is 'winning in the end' the most important thing today? Well, sadly I guess it is. 'Doing the right thing' may not be.

540 posted on 03/26/2005 11:41:32 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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